A case for Tru-Start

Dave Noll · 11-13-2016, 06:38 PM

Just saw this on all access. OK first, Absolutely nothing for or against either driver. Nice job by both.
BUT, Lang leaves first and is Red by .007. Gullet leaves 2nd and is Red by .008. And Gullet gets the win. Just sayin, something to think about. I'm pretty sure the faster guys will lambaste me for this.

(W) Bob Gullett F/S 10.85 -0.008 10.956 0.106
(L) Jody Lang M/SA 12.11 -0.007(R)12.984 0.874

Dave Noll, N/SA 6526

FireSale · 11-13-2016, 06:54 PM

Yes, tough race. With the handicap start, Jody was out the instant he broke the beams. The - 0.007 is basically meaningless. Heads up, Lang wins. Most days, Lang wins....

Nice showing for the guys from up here.

Dave Noll · 11-13-2016, 07:27 PM

But with Tru-Start, Jody would have won that one.

Larry Hill · 11-13-2016, 07:56 PM

but with pigs flying we would need .................

4406mopar · 11-13-2016, 08:29 PM

Not isolated, happens many events.
Pomona finals SS 3rd round - stock 5th round
Vegas SS 2nd round
Dallas stock 2nd round.
St Louis SS 3rd round, etc

7423 · 11-13-2016, 08:47 PM

Nothing mysterious about it................Lang should be the winner. He drove a better race.

Rory McNeil · 11-13-2016, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 7423

Nothing mysterious about it................Lang should be the winner. He drove a better race.

Curious how you say that Charlie, their red lights were only .001 apart, and Bob was much closer to his dial, although it is obvious that both drivers lifted early. I know both drivers, and Jody is certainly one of the best Stock and S/S drivers over the past 15 or so years, but as he showed in the final, Mr. Gullet is not to be taken lightly, and deserved the win.

7423 · 11-13-2016, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Curious how you say that Charlie, their red lights were only .001 apart, and Bob was much closer to his dial, although it is obvious that both drivers lifted early. I know both drivers, and Jody is certainly one of the best Stock and S/S drivers over the past 15 or so years, but as he showed in the final, Mr. Gullet is not to be taken lightly, and deserved the win.

The race was over on the starting line. Closer to the dial means nothing. Closer to green should move on. Jody was closer to green than Bob. Pigs should have been flyin' long ago...........

rognelson777 · 11-13-2016, 09:22 PM

Always thought Drag racing was 1st or worst was disqualified. Trustart fixes the redlight scenario.

FireSale · 11-14-2016, 02:41 AM

I reread the available info on TruStart and agree with the premise, but the track has to shut off the automatic win light until after the second car starts the clocks. If the chaser is geared to kill the tree in a tight race like this, he can drop out of race mode with the auto win light flashing. If the win light is put on hold, then the chaser has to follow his plan of action. If it involves cutting it too close, then the red light margins decide the winner. The chaser has to be given the opportunity to lose to make this fair.

11-13-2016, 06:38 PM	#1
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 710 Likes: 2,671 Liked 240 Times in 112 Posts	A case for Tru-Start Just saw this on all access. OK first, Absolutely nothing for or against either driver. Nice job by both. BUT, Lang leaves first and is Red by .007. Gullet leaves 2nd and is Red by .008. And Gullet gets the win. Just sayin, something to think about. I'm pretty sure the faster guys will lambaste me for this. (W) Bob Gullett F/S 10.85 -0.008 10.956 0.106 (L) Jody Lang M/SA 12.11 -0.007(R)12.984 0.874 Dave Noll, *N/SA* 6526 Last edited by Dave Noll; 11-13-2016 at 06:41 PM.

11-13-2016, 06:54 PM	#2
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start Yes, tough race. With the handicap start, Jody was out the instant he broke the beams. The - 0.007 is basically meaningless. Heads up, Lang wins. Most days, Lang wins.... Nice showing for the guys from up here. __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394

11-13-2016, 07:27 PM	#3
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 710 Likes: 2,671 Liked 240 Times in 112 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start But with Tru-Start, Jody would have won that one. __________________ Dave Noll, EF/S ,?/SA 6526

11-13-2016, 07:56 PM	#4
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,641 Likes: 1,940 Liked 10,714 Times in 2,230 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start but with pigs flying we would need ................. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

11-13-2016, 08:29 PM	#5
4406mopar Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 233 Likes: 168 Liked 120 Times in 53 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start Not isolated, happens many events. Pomona finals SS 3rd round - stock 5th round Vegas SS 2nd round Dallas stock 2nd round. St Louis SS 3rd round, etc Last edited by 4406mopar; 11-13-2016 at 10:24 PM.

11-13-2016, 08:47 PM	#6
7423 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 639 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: A case for Tru-Start Nothing mysterious about it................Lang should be the winner. He drove a better race.

11-13-2016, 09:22 PM	#9
rognelson777 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 376 Likes: 20 Liked 135 Times in 74 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start Always thought Drag racing was 1st or worst was disqualified. Trustart fixes the redlight scenario.

11-14-2016, 02:41 AM	#10
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: A case for Tru-Start I reread the available info on TruStart and agree with the premise, but the track has to shut off the automatic win light until after the second car starts the clocks. If the chaser is geared to kill the tree in a tight race like this, he can drop out of race mode with the auto win light flashing. If the win light is put on hold, then the chaser has to follow his plan of action. If it involves cutting it too close, then the red light margins decide the winner. The chaser has to be given the opportunity to lose to make this fair. __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394