Is this possible?

Greg Hill · 09-25-2007, 10:16 AM

First of all I want to say I am not accusing anyone if cheating. I don't even know if this is possible. Can a car equipped with one of the new digital ignition boxes that can be programed to add or subtract timing as you go down the racetrack be interfaced with an onboard computer [ like a racepak ] that has a driveshaft sensor so the car will know how quick you are goping and adjust the timing to make your car run a certain number ?
This sounds like a very complicated thing to me, however I'm not real savy when it comes to electronics and computers.

Greg

stockracer · 09-25-2007, 10:24 AM

Most likely not on the drive shaft...probably on the front wheel...Mattys origional drawing (as per the patent) was on the drive shaft, but minute tire spin will throw this off, therefore, it goes to the front wheel! Do you know of any cars that have done good in the past that didnt leave with the wheels up, or at least one on the ground...Ive seen a couple this year! One at bakersfield, another at woodburn! Long story short, very possible...Oh hell, Now we got to get rid of all but one ignition box, time for another rule change!

junior barns · 09-25-2007, 10:34 AM

not to steal to your thread greg but I was wondering if a trans brake can be put in the valve body and activated wireless???

Chris Hill · 09-25-2007, 10:35 AM

Greg,

Yes, it would be possible and probally pretty easy for someone well versed in controls.

Dave Goob Cook · 09-25-2007, 11:17 AM

That is why only one of the Digital MSD boxes is legal in NHRA competition.

The Matty setup is near worthless these days, the 4-step could be of some use though.
http://www.mattyinnovations.com/

Davis Technologies offers wireless traction control system for their distributors, but an HEI looks real out of place on a bracket car, maybe not so much on a Stocker or Super Stocker.
http://moretraction.com/
Now go hunt witches!!!!!

Chad Rhodes · 09-25-2007, 12:06 PM

to the best of my knowledge last time i spoke with nhra tech, the only illegal box is the 7531 "traction control" box all other digitals are legal

Jack McCarthy · 09-25-2007, 12:08 PM

greg i am with you... im too dumb to figure it out... but i feel sure someone is smart enough...

there are sensors the roundy round guys use that pinpoint the location of the car, if timed with the twostep button could calculate the location / time and adjust et easily... and thats hardware

anyway the less electronics the better

jack

SSDiv6 · 09-25-2007, 05:08 PM

They are called Transponders...you can get them the size of a postage stamp and remotely control anything you want if you know what you are doing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transponder

09-25-2007, 10:16 AM	#1
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Is this possible? First of all I want to say I am not accusing anyone if cheating. I don't even know if this is possible. Can a car equipped with one of the new digital ignition boxes that can be programed to add or subtract timing as you go down the racetrack be interfaced with an onboard computer [ like a racepak ] that has a driveshaft sensor so the car will know how quick you are goping and adjust the timing to make your car run a certain number ? This sounds like a very complicated thing to me, however I'm not real savy when it comes to electronics and computers. Greg

09-25-2007, 10:24 AM	#2
stockracer Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 79 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is this possible? Most likely not on the drive shaft...probably on the front wheel...Mattys origional drawing (as per the patent) was on the drive shaft, but minute tire spin will throw this off, therefore, it goes to the front wheel! Do you know of any cars that have done good in the past that didnt leave with the wheels up, or at least one on the ground...Ive seen a couple this year! One at bakersfield, another at woodburn! Long story short, very possible...Oh hell, Now we got to get rid of all but one ignition box, time for another rule change!

09-25-2007, 10:34 AM	#3
junior barns Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 541 Likes: 11 Liked 20 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Is this possible? not to steal to your thread greg but I was wondering if a trans brake can be put in the valve body and activated wireless???

09-25-2007, 10:35 AM	#4
Chris Hill Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 655 Likes: 8 Liked 244 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Is this possible? Greg, Yes, it would be possible and probally pretty easy for someone well versed in controls. __________________ Chris Hill https://ihmusedparts.com

09-25-2007, 11:17 AM	#5
Dave Goob Cook Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indy Posts: 422 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Is this possible? That is why only one of the Digital MSD boxes is legal in NHRA competition. The Matty setup is near worthless these days, the 4-step could be of some use though. http://www.mattyinnovations.com/ Davis Technologies offers wireless traction control system for their distributors, but an HEI looks real out of place on a bracket car, maybe not so much on a Stocker or Super Stocker. http://moretraction.com/ Now go hunt witches!!!!! Last edited by Dave Goob Cook; 09-25-2007 at 11:25 AM. Reason: add links

09-25-2007, 12:06 PM	#6
Chad Rhodes VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Where the Green Grass Grows, AL Posts: 2,375 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Is this possible? to the best of my knowledge last time i spoke with nhra tech, the only illegal box is the 7531 "traction control" box all other digitals are legal __________________ Chad Rhodes 2113 I/SA

09-25-2007, 12:08 PM	#7
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 474 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Is this possible? greg i am with you... im too dumb to figure it out... but i feel sure someone is smart enough... there are sensors the roundy round guys use that pinpoint the location of the car, if timed with the twostep button could calculate the location / time and adjust et easily... and thats hardware anyway the less electronics the better jack __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

09-25-2007, 05:08 PM	#8
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,044 Likes: 712 Liked 1,579 Times in 582 Posts	Re: Is this possible? They are called Transponders...you can get them the size of a postage stamp and remotely control anything you want if you know what you are doing... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transponder