Sunoco equivalent

jamie2370 · 12-15-2021, 10:28 AM

Sunoco cross for VP C11? I know that Supreme is the cross for C12 but I have a dish 305 chevy stocker which would likely benefit from C11 vs C12.

John Dinkel · 12-15-2021, 11:14 AM

What is the compression ratio of your 305? Sunoco Standard is 110 octane.I wouldn't think you would more than that.

e vassar · 12-15-2021, 12:05 PM

Renegade R11 is pretty close. Our LT1 liked it but had a lot of problems at fuel check. We were told by their distributor here in D4 they were aware of the problem and working on it. So those problems may be resolved. Anyway it was easier for us just to purchase Sunoco blue at the track for both cars.

Don Anderson · 12-15-2021, 06:25 PM

Sunoco: 260GTX

SDT1DYI · 12-15-2021, 07:49 PM

Or Sunoco Surge. Seems to be difficult to get. I think many Sunoco distributors don't stock it.

Doug Hoven · 12-15-2021, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SDT1DYI

Or Sunoco Surge. Seems to be difficult to get. I think many Sunoco distributors don't stock it.

It's a shame NHRA took it away from the approved fuel list after allowing it for 1 season. The few people I know that tested with it saw that there was some potential in it. They never really gave a reason for taking it away either.

Pete Lanciers · 12-16-2021, 01:12 AM

Jaime,

I run both C-11 and Sunoco Supreme in my low compression 73 340. The only performance deltas I’ve ever discerned was that the Sunoco likes more timing…

G Anderson · 12-26-2021, 05:58 PM

Surge---definitely more HP and Tq than 110 on the dyno with no other changes--havent tested at the track

1347 · 12-26-2021, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by G Anderson

Surge---definitely more HP and Tq than 110 on the dyno with no other changes--havent tested at the track

Someone needs to contact NHRA and see why it was removed from the list.

Rsmith38 · 12-28-2021, 09:32 AM

When C-9 was removed from the list (several years back) I asked Bruce B why and after 2 weeks he got back to me and said nobody was using it? I was #1 Qualifier with it! (probably not due to the fuel). But you do realize that Sunoco is the OFFICIAL fuel supplier - right!! I now use C-10 in the Jeep

12-15-2021, 11:14 AM	#2
John Dinkel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pinckney, Michigan Posts: 507 Likes: 399 Liked 263 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Sunoco equivalent What is the compression ratio of your 305? Sunoco Standard is 110 octane.I wouldn't think you would more than that. __________________ John Dinkel 3295 STK

12-15-2021, 12:05 PM	#3
e vassar Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 382 Likes: 67 Liked 271 Times in 107 Posts	Re: Sunoco equivalent Renegade R11 is pretty close. Our LT1 liked it but had a lot of problems at fuel check. We were told by their distributor here in D4 they were aware of the problem and working on it. So those problems may be resolved. Anyway it was easier for us just to purchase Sunoco blue at the track for both cars.

12-15-2021, 06:25 PM	#4
Don Anderson Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Duluth, Mn. Posts: 155 Likes: 2,790 Liked 24 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Sunoco equivalent Sunoco: 260GTX

12-15-2021, 07:49 PM	#5
SDT1DYI Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Indianola Washington Posts: 403 Likes: 0 Liked 455 Times in 147 Posts	Re: Sunoco equivalent Or Sunoco Surge. Seems to be difficult to get. I think many Sunoco distributors don't stock it.

12-16-2021, 01:12 AM	#7
Pete Lanciers Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 382 Likes: 867 Liked 627 Times in 156 Posts	Re: Sunoco equivalent Jaime, I run both C-11 and Sunoco Supreme in my low compression 73 340. The only performance deltas I’ve ever discerned was that the Sunoco likes more timing… __________________ Pete Lanciers PAL Automotive Racing Stock 7801

12-15-2021, 10:28 AM	#1
jamie2370 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Perry, GA Posts: 331 Likes: 11 Liked 239 Times in 90 Posts	Sunoco equivalent Sunoco cross for VP C11? I know that Supreme is the cross for C12 but I have a dish 305 chevy stocker which would likely benefit from C11 vs C12.

12-26-2021, 05:58 PM	#8
G Anderson Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 105 Likes: 13 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Sunoco equivalent Surge---definitely more HP and Tq than 110 on the dyno with no other changes--havent tested at the track

12-28-2021, 09:32 AM	#10
Rsmith38 Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 28 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Sunoco equivalent When C-9 was removed from the list (several years back) I asked Bruce B why and after 2 weeks he got back to me and said nobody was using it? I was #1 Qualifier with it! (probably not due to the fuel). But you do realize that Sunoco is the OFFICIAL fuel supplier - right!! I now use C-10 in the Jeep