Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races

Bruce Noland · 11-27-2007, 02:01 PM

This should make the masses happy, but will kill the performance parts suppliers and engine builders. This is supposedly the work of our boys Len and Wesley. Aren't they having fun?

Chuck Norton · 11-27-2007, 02:33 PM

Not only that, but from reviewing the national event registration page, it appears that some of the event quotas have been on a diet. There should be no problem getting the Sunday crowd out the gate and the track secured. '08 may not turn out to be a banner year.

11-27-2007, 03:09 PM

If this is true. How are they going to police combinations at divisionals? What's to stop somebody from claiming a different combo, and then going out and tripping the AHFS. Who's going to know...?

Leo Niedermeier · 11-27-2007, 03:24 PM

Len said he is accepting e-mails on this.

Bruce Noland · 11-27-2007, 03:32 PM

Chuck, all of us knew the new nhra was going to be hammering the little guys in spite of what they said. I hope they are ready for the new nitrohealth.org site. A guy from out west is putting it together and claims he will have it up fairly soon; a little medicine for the doctors.

Sean, they don't give a rats behind about who does what any more. But don't trip that -1.15 number...now that is something they can get their teeth into. I think the nhra tech department is done. Basically they have a couple of guys playing with the blue print sheets and a couple of guys playing with the AHFS.

Leo, so word got out that they were going to stuff this down our throats and now they are accepting emails on the matter?

rtaylor3410 · 11-27-2007, 03:51 PM

If they proceed with lowering the indexes by .2, this isn't that big a deal is it?

Len Imbrogno · 11-27-2007, 04:01 PM

Despite Mr. Noland's usual misguided assumptions, this issue has not yet been decided, nor do I support it.
While there have been a large number of racers over the last several years who have asked for division event to be included in the AHFS, there does not appear to be a majority of racers who want this to happen.
Therefore, as Leo correctly stated, we would like to hear from S/SS racers on this issue

Bruce Witherspoon · 11-27-2007, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Len Imbrogno

Despite Mr. Noland's usual misguided assumptions, this issue has not yet been decided, nor do I support it.
While there have been a large number of racers over the last several years who have asked for division event to be included in the AHFS, there does not appear to be a majority of racers who want this to happen.
Therefore, as Leo correctly stated, we would like to hear from S/SS racers on this issue

Len is the 1.15 under with or without the proposed index change in either case?

Len Imbrogno · 11-27-2007, 04:21 PM

Bruce,
The majority vote was to maintain the 1.15 under and for no .20 index adjustments for 2008.

Dick Butler · 11-27-2007, 04:23 PM

Okay I will ask the obvious question.
If AHFS is designed to help correct poor initial factoring and bring the outlying combinations back to where more combinations are closer to being competitive why would people be complaining. Is it they are the ones with the soft combinations?
In a class where one car combination is running like SS/AH it makes less concern but if you are in a class with a bogus combination to run against to win a trophy, it becomes depressing real quick....except in the bracket part of the racing.

11-27-2007, 02:01 PM	#1
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races This should make the masses happy, but will kill the performance parts suppliers and engine builders. This is supposedly the work of our boys Len and Wesley. Aren't they having fun? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

11-27-2007, 02:33 PM	#2
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 106 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Not only that, but from reviewing the national event registration page, it appears that some of the event quotas have been on a diet. There should be no problem getting the Sunday crowd out the gate and the track secured. '08 may not turn out to be a banner year.

11-27-2007, 03:09 PM	#3
Sean Cour Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races If this is true. How are they going to police combinations at divisionals? What's to stop somebody from claiming a different combo, and then going out and tripping the AHFS. Who's going to know...?

11-27-2007, 03:24 PM	#4
Leo Niedermeier Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: monroe,ct Posts: 59 Likes: 14 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Len said he is accepting e-mails on this. __________________ Leo Niedermeier 1568 STK

11-27-2007, 03:32 PM	#5
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Chuck, all of us knew the new nhra was going to be hammering the little guys in spite of what they said. I hope they are ready for the new nitrohealth.org site. A guy from out west is putting it together and claims he will have it up fairly soon; a little medicine for the doctors. Sean, they don't give a rats behind about who does what any more. But don't trip that -1.15 number...now that is something they can get their teeth into. I think the nhra tech department is done. Basically they have a couple of guys playing with the blue print sheets and a couple of guys playing with the AHFS. Leo, so word got out that they were going to stuff this down our throats and now they are accepting emails on the matter? __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK Last edited by Bruce Noland; 11-27-2007 at 03:41 PM.

11-27-2007, 03:51 PM	#6
rtaylor3410 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 30 Likes: 68 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races If they proceed with lowering the indexes by .2, this isn't that big a deal is it?

11-27-2007, 04:01 PM	#7
Len Imbrogno Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 40 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Despite Mr. Noland's usual misguided assumptions, this issue has not yet been decided, nor do I support it. While there have been a large number of racers over the last several years who have asked for division event to be included in the AHFS, there does not appear to be a majority of racers who want this to happen. Therefore, as Leo correctly stated, we would like to hear from S/SS racers on this issue __________________ Len Imbrogno Last edited by Len Imbrogno; 11-27-2007 at 04:06 PM.

11-27-2007, 04:21 PM	#9
Len Imbrogno Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 40 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Bruce, The majority vote was to maintain the 1.15 under and for no .20 index adjustments for 2008. __________________ Len Imbrogno

11-27-2007, 04:23 PM	#10
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Word is 1.15 under for AHFS at Opens and Divisional races Okay I will ask the obvious question. If AHFS is designed to help correct poor initial factoring and bring the outlying combinations back to where more combinations are closer to being competitive why would people be complaining. Is it they are the ones with the soft combinations? In a class where one car combination is running like SS/AH it makes less concern but if you are in a class with a bogus combination to run against to win a trophy, it becomes depressing real quick....except in the bracket part of the racing.