Lower Class Stockers

Ross Family Racing · 12-01-2008, 01:15 PM

When was the last time that a Stocker running 13.00 or slower won a national event? Has a front wheel drive stocker ever won a national or divisional event? Should the lower class cars be in a seperate eliminator (like there would ever be a seperate eliminator)? I've always liked the uniqueness of all the slower cars/trucks. Jeff Ross

Michael Beard · 12-01-2008, 01:33 PM

I thought Yac's win was with a Citation... '88 Summernationals?

I made three semis with my EF/SA Turismo (Dutch Classic, Nat'l Open @ US13, and Cecil County FMDRS) and finished #11 in NHRA Div. 1, missing one race. Close, no cigar, but I was still learning the car at the time, too.

The stats are skewed against them just because there are so few of them, and the 'hitters' choose to run faster cars. Put one of them in a slow car, and you've still got a winner.

Roger K Fain · 12-01-2008, 01:34 PM

Larry Hill's son won a National Event in a six cyl. pickup truck...NHRA M/N/O/P Stock...in IHRA it would be GT/PU2PEA1 to the seventh power.

Dave Turner · 12-01-2008, 01:40 PM

Ahh, the stuff dreams are made from........

Mike Carr · 12-01-2008, 01:44 PM

I believe Mark is the only one to have won a Nat'l. I, like Mike, got close a few times at some IHRA and NHRA Div/Open races, but never quite got there. Did get back to back IHRA eighth place Divisional finishes in a 17-18 second Sunbird in '03 and '04. Maybe one day one of us can join Mr Yacavone.

B.D.

Chuck Norton · 12-01-2008, 01:55 PM

I've run a few rounds against stockers in the slower classes. One of the most fearsome was Lane Weber in his V/SA Buick. Others that come to mind were a fourth round race at Indy against Steve Tarrance and a second round race against Tom Kasch at the same event in 1994. I wouldn't be seeking out any of those guys for a rematch. A slower class car in the hands of someone who has a good handle on dialing and knows how to drive the stripe can give you ulcers.

c

Bob Don · 12-01-2008, 02:54 PM

Mark Yacavone won the '86 Summernationals in Englishtown with a 1981 Ford Escort FWD stocker (that was borrowed!). He is the only person ever to win a NHRA National Event in a FWD car.

Paul Wong · 12-01-2008, 04:03 PM

Neil Smedley won the Las Vegas sping race in Q/SA or P/SA a few years ago. I had a good time watching him take out some real hitters along the way.

casper · 12-01-2008, 04:19 PM

nothing like spotting one of those cars 8 seconds on the tree at a combo race ... 8 seconds seems like 8 minutes.

Bunkster · 12-01-2008, 04:30 PM

Perhaps.... just perhaps... the gross injustice of the "first’ rather than "worst" red-light thing could be a factor as to why this question is even being asked.

IHRA/NHRA, if you’re listening, correct this now. Don't take a poll, don’t ask for input: Just institute the change without even telling anyone. It's time to end this lunacy.

12-01-2008, 01:33 PM	#2
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Lower Class Stockers I thought Yac's win was with a Citation... '88 Summernationals? I made three semis with my EF/SA Turismo (Dutch Classic, Nat'l Open @ US13, and Cecil County FMDRS) and finished #11 in NHRA Div. 1, missing one race. Close, no cigar, but I was still learning the car at the time, too. The stats are skewed against them just because there are so few of them, and the 'hitters' choose to run faster cars. Put one of them in a slow car, and you've still got a winner. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

12-01-2008, 01:34 PM	#3
Roger K Fain Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Clarksburg, WV Posts: 146 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Lower Class Stockers Larry Hill's son won a National Event in a six cyl. pickup truck...NHRA M/N/O/P Stock...in IHRA it would be GT/PU2PEA1 to the seventh power.

12-01-2008, 01:40 PM	#4
Dave Turner VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Schomberg, ON, Canada Posts: 1,222 Likes: 1,606 Liked 364 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Lower Class Stockers Ahh, the stuff dreams are made from........ __________________ Dave Turner SS/GT #1153

12-01-2008, 01:44 PM	#5
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Lower Class Stockers I believe Mark is the only one to have won a Nat'l. I, like Mike, got close a few times at some IHRA and NHRA Div/Open races, but never quite got there. Did get back to back IHRA eighth place Divisional finishes in a 17-18 second Sunbird in '03 and '04. Maybe one day one of us can join Mr Yacavone. B.D. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

12-01-2008, 01:55 PM	#6
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 109 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Lower Class Stockers I've run a few rounds against stockers in the slower classes. One of the most fearsome was Lane Weber in his V/SA Buick. Others that come to mind were a fourth round race at Indy against Steve Tarrance and a second round race against Tom Kasch at the same event in 1994. I wouldn't be seeking out any of those guys for a rematch. A slower class car in the hands of someone who has a good handle on dialing and knows how to drive the stripe can give you ulcers. c

12-01-2008, 01:15 PM	#1
Ross Family Racing Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St.Clairsville, Ohio Posts: 459 Likes: 0 Liked 51 Times in 14 Posts	Lower Class Stockers When was the last time that a Stocker running 13.00 or slower won a national event? Has a front wheel drive stocker ever won a national or divisional event? Should the lower class cars be in a seperate eliminator (like there would ever be a seperate eliminator)? I've always liked the uniqueness of all the slower cars/trucks. Jeff Ross

12-01-2008, 02:54 PM	#7
Bob Don VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,496 Likes: 1,134 Liked 903 Times in 192 Posts	Re: Lower Class Stockers Mark Yacavone won the '86 Summernationals in Englishtown with a 1981 Ford Escort FWD stocker (that was borrowed!). He is the only person ever to win a NHRA National Event in a FWD car.

12-01-2008, 04:03 PM	#8
Paul Wong Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 384 Likes: 101 Liked 419 Times in 85 Posts	Re: Lower Class Stockers Neil Smedley won the Las Vegas sping race in Q/SA or P/SA a few years ago. I had a good time watching him take out some real hitters along the way. Last edited by Paul Wong; 12-01-2008 at 11:04 PM.

12-01-2008, 04:19 PM	#9
casper Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 112 Likes: 4 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Lower Class Stockers nothing like spotting one of those cars 8 seconds on the tree at a combo race ... 8 seconds seems like 8 minutes.

12-01-2008, 04:30 PM	#10
Bunkster Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 307 Likes: 0 Liked 43 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Lower Class Stockers Perhaps.... just perhaps... the gross injustice of the "first’ rather than "worst" red-light thing could be a factor as to why this question is even being asked. IHRA/NHRA, if you’re listening, correct this now. Don't take a poll, don’t ask for input: Just institute the change without even telling anyone. It's time to end this lunacy.