thanks again nhra

Jack McCarthy · 10-11-2022, 02:30 PM

new ruling on elcamino's absurd

the 59-76 elcos are built on car chassis as were the 57 sedan deiveries
77-87 are specific platform 117" wb

and no regard on statement on HP reductions / increases

maybe im just sensitive but seems like im just the nhra whipping boy ...
1st 302 fffords get -30HP
2nd AMA weights coming moves me out of class ive held record in for 27 of laast 40 years
3rd elcamino now loses its 430 cam AND seems like loses earned hp reduction

this bull**** aint much fun anymore

Spyphish · 10-11-2022, 05:47 PM

Come over to Lemons 24. HOOT

GTS340 · 10-11-2022, 06:12 PM

How much do you lose? Is it a .410 now.

Paul

Bob Shaw · 10-11-2022, 08:09 PM

Jack, don't buy a new cam yet.

Mark Yacavone · 10-11-2022, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

new ruling on elcamino's absurd

the 59-76 elcos are built on car chassis as were the 57 sedan deiveries
77-87 are specific platform 117" wb

and no regard on statement on HP reductions / increases

maybe im just sensitive but seems like im just the nhra whipping boy ...
1st 302 fffords get -30HP
2nd AMA weights coming moves me out of class ive held record in for 27 of laast 40 years
3rd elcamino now loses its 430 cam AND seems like loses earned hp reduction

this bull**** aint much fun anymore

Jack, Don't forget the 260 4 bbl. Saudi Arabian taxi option.
Also the V 8 FWD's in regular Stock...

James Perrone · 10-12-2022, 08:54 AM

Nobody cares ….. but 2 people in the whole world
Build Back Better not a softy

MR DERBY CITY · 10-12-2022, 12:14 PM

The LORD giveth and The LORD taketh away. (Job 1: 21 )

Doug Hoven · 10-12-2022, 01:00 PM

So now a 2 second under combo becomes what, a 1.5 under combo?
I would say that the HP rating on that combo was a joke, but jokes are funny. Up until last year, the hp rating on that combo was the same as the 230 inline 6 in the nova. Somebody would have to play "the game" for the next 5-6 years at least to make that combo anywhere remotely close to the el camino in V/SA. It's kind of funny how people keep complaining about the "fffords". Where's the influx of people building 2bbl 302's that everyone cried wolf about? The people that are running those combos seem to be the same ones that ran them for years before the hp reduction.

Chipper Chapman · 10-12-2022, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy

new ruling on elcamino's absurd

the 59-76 elcos are built on car chassis as were the 57 sedan deiveries
77-87 are specific platform 117" wb

So the wheelbase is different, but all components, the rails in between and body panels are g-body CAR specific, so do you suggest a Chevelle 4 door (116") should get different engine specs, allowed parts, and factors than a 2 door (112")?
As stated above, your 2 second under combo just got knocked back to 1.50 under combo, what a shame!

Mark Yacavone · 10-12-2022, 02:32 PM

For those who don't follow this stuff closely, but feel the need to comment anyway, Jack's Elky is a 305 2 bbl...not a V6 like the one that triggered this look/see and subsequent ruling.
Jack's doesn't run a second under, yet. It did lose it's .430 lift cam too though.
Whether it should have had it in the first place is debatable, but it did and now it doesn't.
(See MJ's point, above)

That was Jack's point, I believe.

10-11-2022, 02:30 PM	#1
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,308 Likes: 27 Liked 434 Times in 108 Posts	thanks again nhra new ruling on elcamino's absurd the 59-76 elcos are built on car chassis as were the 57 sedan deiveries 77-87 are specific platform 117" wb and no regard on statement on HP reductions / increases maybe im just sensitive but seems like im just the nhra whipping boy ... 1st 302 fffords get -30HP 2nd AMA weights coming moves me out of class ive held record in for 27 of laast 40 years 3rd elcamino now loses its 430 cam AND seems like loses earned hp reduction this bull**** aint much fun anymore __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

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10-12-2022, 01:00 PM	#8
Doug Hoven Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jersey Posts: 209 Likes: 189 Liked 807 Times in 160 Posts	Re: thanks again nhra So now a 2 second under combo becomes what, a 1.5 under combo? I would say that the HP rating on that combo was a joke, but jokes are funny. Up until last year, the hp rating on that combo was the same as the 230 inline 6 in the nova. Somebody would have to play "the game" for the next 5-6 years at least to make that combo anywhere remotely close to the el camino in V/SA. It's kind of funny how people keep complaining about the "fffords". Where's the influx of people building 2bbl 302's that everyone cried wolf about? The people that are running those combos seem to be the same ones that ran them for years before the hp reduction. __________________ 1189 F/SA Defunzalo Racing Enterprises Last edited by Doug Hoven; 10-12-2022 at 01:05 PM.

10-12-2022, 02:32 PM	#10
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,742 Likes: 2,845 Liked 5,002 Times in 1,902 Posts	Re: thanks again nhra For those who don't follow this stuff closely, but feel the need to comment anyway, Jack's Elky is a 305 2 bbl...not a V6 like the one that triggered this look/see and subsequent ruling. Jack's doesn't run a second under, yet. It did lose it's .430 lift cam too though. Whether it should have had it in the first place is debatable, but it did and now it doesn't. (See MJ's point, above) That was Jack's point, I believe. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers