Just talkin' here,

[Billy Nees]

and I would never hope to see this happen but what would Stock Eliminator be like if the NHRA decided to instate the "15 Year" rule again? To fill their Natl. Event fields with new cars.
What would Stock be like without all of the cars from the "Muscle Car" era?
Could this ever really happen?
How did the Stock Racers of 1972/73 feel when they were told that their Stockers are SSers now?

[jmcarter]

Scary prospect Billy but not beyond something NHRA might do as they slowly dwindle the quotas. If you compare quotas this year vs. just last year you can see the direction, cutting quotas for the fall Charlotte and Vegas races with the kind of facilities they have continues to befuddle me. With the Gators filling in two days with just Grade 8's might become the norm for more events since for some, chasing a Wally is the Holy Grail. It may very well become a Millionaire's Club. Another mystery to me is how Alan Reinhart so enthusiastically announces Class racing and the "old iron" and they even do "feature flyers" on classic muscle cars but are the "suits" even listening? But many of us could very well be told that we're only welcome in the index classes. Others will have to speak to how they felt back in 72/73 but I for one love seeing Lyn Smith and others running the 55's and others.

[joe huestis]

I began racing in ‘72 with my ‘57 Chevy 4 dr. wagon which was my first car. A friend of mine had a ‘57 sedan delivery less m&t I bought for $75. (the old “Hatch’s All American”)out of Peekskill, N.Y. Found I could only run it as a SS and sold it never doing anything with that car. The era of the Junior Stockers killed off. Purchased my ‘69 Camaro in ‘73 for $1300., converted it to the “ new stock eliminator” complete with those funky treaded M&H “slicks” which were now legal to run. As I recall those with treads were allowed up to 10 1/2 in width. 1960 and newer cars were only allowed and originally as each year passed, NHRA was going to drop a year so the following year only 1961 models and so on. That was squashed pretty quickly.

[KRatcliff]

My Firebird "identifies" as a 2015 Camaro.....or something like that.

[CMcAllister]

Pathetic the way NHRA has crapped on sportsman and class racers over the past 20 years. Purse is down, contingencies are down, tech is down, respect is down, only 60 cars allowed to come to a national event. But there are still just as many cars out there and people who want to race as ever. Just pathetic.

[jmcarter]

With the exception of Indy 60 is the high range, more are now 45, 50 and 55.

http://www.nhra.net/2020/images/NHRA..._NE_Quotas.pdf

Kyle, that’s plain funny; I don’t care who you are....but come to think of it I’ve been seeing more Stockers that “identify” as Super Stockers.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by CMcAllister

Pathetic the way NHRA has crapped on sportsman and class racers over the past 20 years. Purse is down, contingencies are down, tech is down, respect is down, only 60 cars allowed to come to a national event. But there are still just as many cars out there and people who want to race as ever. Just pathetic.

Warned you that if NHRA did not support CM and PS that it would systematically be doing the same to the rest of the Sport.

Had they been supportive there would be an IHRA and lot more affordable cars and people trying to compete.

NHRA wants to dominate the direction of Drag Racing and our voices are an irritant to them.

D

[joe huestis]

[QUOTE=Billy Nees;605501]and I would never hope to see this happen but what would Stock Eliminator be like if the NHRA decided to instate the "15 Year" rule again? To fill their Natl. Event fields with new cars.
Then it becomes a “well off” man’s eliminator. Several of us can not afford the new cars.

[Kyle Kohr]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

and I would never hope to see this happen but what would Stock Eliminator be like if the NHRA decided to instate the "15 Year" rule again? To fill their Natl. Event fields with new cars.
What would Stock be like without all of the cars from the "Muscle Car" era?
Could this ever really happen?
How did the Stock Racers of 1972/73 feel when they were told that their Stockers are SSers now?

Hey Billy, when was the “15 year rule” a rule and when did they get rid of it?

[AJ Laferty]

Generally, I'm an autocrosser with SCCA. BUT, I WAS building a stocker pickup for IHRA when they killed it all. All this discussion is interesting, but maybe you could gain a different perspective by looking at how SCCA runs it's autocross program, from classing to rulemaking processes. The rulebook is online at https://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules so you don't have to spend a penny. Its a club---for the members. I think this forum should consider looking for a different organizational model for their interest.

Oh, and by the way, SCCA has a 30 year rule for the Street class. Don't think NHRA can't/won't insert a year rule, especially if the older car people start making trouble with NHRA. The SCCA 30 year rule is in place to remove the "unicorn" car to have from dominating a class.

Oh, yes, SCCA has TOO MANY CLASSES, but far fewer than NHRA. 1400 autocrossers in a weeklong nationals (2 days per class) and almost nobody torn down. a few contingencies, no purse, but a pretty exclusive jacket for winning a national championship...