Insurance surcharge for Stockers???

bill dedman · 04-10-2009, 06:22 AM

One of their shills on another board is contending that NHRA hasn't raised prices for Sportsman competitiors in TEN YEARS.

Can anyone tell me when they introduced the "insurance surcharge" (is it $40.00?) to provide insurance coverage for the PROS (since they not only don't have to pay an entry fee, but can't afford to pay their own way, apparently?) Am I mistaken, or is this actually the case? I'd like to know for sure before I go off half-cocked...

Any information will be appreciated.

Also, can anyone remember when the last time they had an increased payout for a Stock or S/S Class win, national event Eliminator win, or #1 qualifier?

I can't remember that far back... gettin' old...

art leong · 04-10-2009, 08:31 AM

The entrance fee in the 90's used to be $185 (I think) but you got one crew pass along with it. now you pay for the crew seperately. That's an $85 increase 45%.
So who are they BSing
Class win and #1 qualifier were all contingency based.

Ed Wright · 04-10-2009, 09:00 AM

Bill,

Alan Patterson and I were talking a few weeks back, and we won as much for divisional races in the '70s as you can win now. That same money certainly won't buy as much today, which makes it a cut in pay outs. I remember when Norm Pera went up to $100.00 for entries at his Lousiana tracks (Don't think they all charged the same back then.), everybody about had a stroke. Jeanie and I paid $200.00 at Ennis last weekend. I think that was for both of us.

bill dedman · 04-10-2009, 12:09 PM

Thanks for the info, Art and Ed; I am specifically interested in this "insurance surcharge" that is a part of the entry fee and I have heard is something that NHRA tags onto the Sportsman racers' entry fees to pay for the PRO's insurance... I heard it was originally $40.00, but at some point (recently, I think) raised to $50.00.

To verify all of that information is what I am trying to learn, here. If it's true, that would surely disprove the NHRA's contention that "entry fees have not been raised in over ten years," something I have a lot of trouble believing.

Does anybody remember when that insurance business got tacked onto your entry fee?

Any information will be appreciated!

Bill

Jim Wahl · 04-10-2009, 01:33 PM

I don't quite understand. I was led to believe that NHRA is self-insured. At least it used to be. Jim

bill dedman · 04-10-2009, 01:47 PM

Jim,

The insurance I refer to is a $40.00 surcharge that's a part of the entry fee to a national event that covers insurance costs for racers running the Professional categories, and it's been a part of the entry fee for a long time.

That's the $40 I'm referring to.

I don't race a class car, so I only have second-hand information from a friend of mine who DOES run a class car, but he says that the $40 in question is part and parcel of every entry fee he pays at national events.

Is he in error?.

Thanks for any information.

Bill

Dennis P Chapman · 04-10-2009, 02:22 PM

Bill
They added the 40.00 on in the mid 80's if I remember correct.

Dennis

04-10-2009, 08:31 AM	#2
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Insurance surcharge for Stockers??? The entrance fee in the 90's used to be $185 (I think) but you got one crew pass along with it. now you pay for the crew seperately. That's an $85 increase 45%. So who are they BSing Class win and #1 qualifier were all contingency based. __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

04-10-2009, 09:00 AM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 389 Times in 169 Posts	Re: Insurance surcharge for Stockers??? Bill, Alan Patterson and I were talking a few weeks back, and we won as much for divisional races in the '70s as you can win now. That same money certainly won't buy as much today, which makes it a cut in pay outs. I remember when Norm Pera went up to $100.00 for entries at his Lousiana tracks (Don't think they all charged the same back then.), everybody about had a stroke. Jeanie and I paid $200.00 at Ennis last weekend. I think that was for both of us. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 04-10-2009 at 09:41 AM. Reason: Forgot a word. I'm old.

04-10-2009, 12:09 PM	#4
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Insurance surcharge for Stockers??? Thanks for the info, Art and Ed; I am specifically interested in this "insurance surcharge" that is a part of the entry fee and I have heard is something that NHRA tags onto the Sportsman racers' entry fees to pay for the PRO's insurance... I heard it was originally $40.00, but at some point (recently, I think) raised to $50.00. To verify all of that information is what I am trying to learn, here. If it's true, that would surely disprove the NHRA's contention that "entry fees have not been raised in over ten years," something I have a lot of trouble believing. Does anybody remember when that insurance business got tacked onto your entry fee? Any information will be appreciated! Bill __________________ Bill

04-10-2009, 01:33 PM	#5
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,843 Likes: 663 Liked 682 Times in 128 Posts	Re: Insurance surcharge for Stockers??? I don't quite understand. I was led to believe that NHRA is self-insured. At least it used to be. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

04-10-2009, 01:47 PM	#6
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Insurance surcharge for Stockers??? Jim, The insurance I refer to is a $40.00 surcharge that's a part of the entry fee to a national event that covers insurance costs for racers running the Professional categories, and it's been a part of the entry fee for a long time. That's the $40 I'm referring to. I don't race a class car, so I only have second-hand information from a friend of mine who DOES run a class car, but he says that the $40 in question is part and parcel of every entry fee he pays at national events. Is he in error?. Thanks for any information. Bill __________________ Bill

04-10-2009, 06:22 AM	#1
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Insurance surcharge for Stockers??? One of their shills on another board is contending that NHRA hasn't raised prices for Sportsman competitiors in TEN YEARS. Can anyone tell me when they introduced the "insurance surcharge" (is it $40.00?) to provide insurance coverage for the PROS (since they not only don't have to pay an entry fee, but can't afford to pay their own way, apparently?) Am I mistaken, or is this actually the case? I'd like to know for sure before I go off half-cocked... Any information will be appreciated. Also, can anyone remember when the last time they had an increased payout for a Stock or S/S Class win, national event Eliminator win, or #1 qualifier? I can't remember that far back... gettin' old... __________________ Bill

04-10-2009, 02:22 PM	#7
Dennis P Chapman VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toms River NJ Posts: 1,594 Likes: 409 Liked 53 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Insurance surcharge for Stockers??? Bill They added the 40.00 on in the mid 80's if I remember correct. Dennis __________________ Dennis P Chapman 1904 STK NHRA National Record Holder Car Owner.