Let's Start The Count

tim worner · 04-12-2009, 10:44 AM

Let's start a count on who is not going to Indy. I don't know how to start one of those poll charts so whoever can let's get one going.

Jim Wahl · 04-12-2009, 10:48 AM

I'm not going! Jim

442OLDS · 04-12-2009, 10:52 AM

There was a boycott last year in IHRA Pro Stock.SOMEBODY will always show up.They will drive down the track on a "bye" run in the final round and WIN.
I don't know what the answer is,but boycott is not one of them.
Maybe EVERYBODY should just go to INDY and create so much traffic that fans can't get to the track because there are so many rigs blocking traffic that nobody can get to the main gate?

tim worner · 04-12-2009, 11:19 AM

I don't expect everyone to not enter Indy. But a list of racers, by the number, who would normally go say they are not going to enter this year. All classes not just stock/super stock. This year it will be $390 to enter for car&driver. Times how many are not going will show the $ loss to NHRA for our little protest. Down a 100 entries=$39,000. How about down 300=$117,000. Now are they going to generate that much more money buy raising ChassiCert ect. And remember this is just one race. We are only looking @ car and driver not crew,concessions,tee shirts,ect.

Ken Miele · 04-12-2009, 11:28 AM

Tim, I started a poll in the competition section. Only people that currently race can vote. When you vote, your name will be seen. No hiding, everyone will know how you feel. Here is the link.

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=17037

tim worner · 04-12-2009, 11:34 AM

Thanks Ken I missed that.

Jack Matyas · 04-12-2009, 11:59 AM

Kenny -- Pole is a good idea -- no hiding is a super one........nice to know the runner-up will be there.....as for the "winner".......we'll see ! !

Also -- If you're not busy later this afternoon and I know you want food in your belly would you mind going to dinner with my mother-in-law and son-in-law .......................Please ! ! ! And my wife -- its a triple header .I think a migrane is coming on ............

THE LEGEND · 04-12-2009, 12:20 PM

Ya'll are crazy. Do you really think NHRA cares if "JOE SPORTSMAN RACER" stays home?
All ya'll could stay home and the show would go on. If you cost them a 100 grand it would'nt matter. Off the subject. My best friend was talking about going to Afganistan to work on diesel trucks for 11 months. He would get $150,000 tax free. He would leave his $60,000 a year job behind as well as his wife kid and NO RACING ( He has 2 bracket cars) And I would loose my crew chief. I told him you don't realize how little a hundred grand is in todays figures. 30 years ago it would be life changing. Today you could'nt payoff your mortgage.
Back to the subject at hand. 100 grand -200 grand-300 grand means nothing to NHRA.
Now you let John Force stay home one weekend and see what happens.
Chip

Mark Yacavone · 04-12-2009, 12:35 PM

Chip, If that's true ,then why are they raising all their fees, across the board?
They say they're losing money on us as it is. There must be some reason why they keep us around.

M Brand 505B · 04-12-2009, 01:21 PM

THE LEGEND, Let your friend know that according to the U.S. tax laws all citizens are subject to tax on all income they receive, regardless of the source (different country etc.). He wouldn't want to be caught on tax evasion lol. But about this subject... I'm not a class racer but do agree protesting Indy and even a few more NHRA races they make a lot of money at would open their eyes but we do not know how much. I wish we knew how much NHRA makes a year or per national event so we could really see the possible effect.

04-12-2009, 10:44 AM	#1
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Let's Start The Count Let's start a count on who is not going to Indy. I don't know how to start one of those poll charts so whoever can let's get one going. __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

04-12-2009, 10:48 AM	#2
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,843 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count I'm not going! Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

04-12-2009, 10:52 AM	#3
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,338 Likes: 5 Liked 281 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count There was a boycott last year in IHRA Pro Stock.SOMEBODY will always show up.They will drive down the track on a "bye" run in the final round and WIN. I don't know what the answer is,but boycott is not one of them. Maybe EVERYBODY should just go to INDY and create so much traffic that fans can't get to the track because there are so many rigs blocking traffic that nobody can get to the main gate?

04-12-2009, 11:19 AM	#4
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count I don't expect everyone to not enter Indy. But a list of racers, by the number, who would normally go say they are not going to enter this year. All classes not just stock/super stock. This year it will be $390 to enter for car&driver. Times how many are not going will show the $ loss to NHRA for our little protest. Down a 100 entries=$39,000. How about down 300=$117,000. Now are they going to generate that much more money buy raising ChassiCert ect. And remember this is just one race. We are only looking @ car and driver not crew,concessions,tee shirts,ect. __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

04-12-2009, 11:28 AM	#5
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,832 Likes: 453 Liked 16,311 Times in 1,493 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count Tim, I started a poll in the competition section. Only people that currently race can vote. When you vote, your name will be seen. No hiding, everyone will know how you feel. Here is the link. http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=17037

04-12-2009, 11:34 AM	#6
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count Thanks Ken I missed that. __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

04-12-2009, 11:59 AM	#7
Jack Matyas Live Reporter Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA Posts: 4,913 Likes: 403 Liked 1,945 Times in 388 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count Kenny -- Pole is a good idea -- no hiding is a super one........nice to know the runner-up will be there.....as for the "winner".......we'll see ! ! Also -- If you're not busy later this afternoon and I know you want food in your belly would you mind going to dinner with my mother-in-law and son-in-law .......................Please ! ! ! And my wife -- its a triple header .I think a migrane is coming on ............ __________________ Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO Last edited by Jack Matyas; 04-12-2009 at 12:04 PM.

04-12-2009, 12:20 PM	#8
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Let's Start The Count Ya'll are crazy. Do you really think NHRA cares if "JOE SPORTSMAN RACER" stays home? All ya'll could stay home and the show would go on. If you cost them a 100 grand it would'nt matter. Off the subject. My best friend was talking about going to Afganistan to work on diesel trucks for 11 months. He would get $150,000 tax free. He would leave his $60,000 a year job behind as well as his wife kid and NO RACING ( He has 2 bracket cars) And I would loose my crew chief. I told him you don't realize how little a hundred grand is in todays figures. 30 years ago it would be life changing. Today you could'nt payoff your mortgage. Back to the subject at hand. 100 grand -200 grand-300 grand means nothing to NHRA. Now you let John Force stay home one weekend and see what happens. Chip

04-12-2009, 12:35 PM	#9
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,790 Likes: 2,882 Liked 5,080 Times in 1,936 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count Chip, If that's true ,then why are they raising all their fees, across the board? They say they're losing money on us as it is. There must be some reason why they keep us around. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

04-12-2009, 01:21 PM	#10
M Brand 505B Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 158 Likes: 2 Liked 31 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Let's Start The Count THE LEGEND, Let your friend know that according to the U.S. tax laws all citizens are subject to tax on all income they receive, regardless of the source (different country etc.). He wouldn't want to be caught on tax evasion lol. But about this subject... I'm not a class racer but do agree protesting Indy and even a few more NHRA races they make a lot of money at would open their eyes but we do not know how much. I wish we knew how much NHRA makes a year or per national event so we could really see the possible effect. __________________ Michael Brand II 505B - F/SA