Ahfs

[RJ]

I remember someone calling the AHFS system "automatic help for slugs" awhile back. I don't see in the AHFS policy on NHRA's site where slow combos get hp off, what was the moniker in reference to?

[Angelo DiTocco]

i belive that reference was directed at the racers with slow cars/combos that complained about fast cars so often to nhra that they decided to implement an automatic system even when they knew there would be no way to create such a system without flaws. hence the term "help for slugs" ..... help for the slow by punishing the fast.

you can send a letter to nhra requesting a reduction of hp for a combo... they will look at similar data and decide if the combo deserves a reduction based on their formulas..... they do that twice a year midway through and at the end of the season.

[RJ]

Thanks Angelo, I'm not trying to get hp off, I was just was wondering where the term came from.

[Jack McCarthy]

RJ... i was the one who tagged the AHFS as the automatic help for slugs...

it seems to me the whole issue surrounds those who have chosen thier combos poorly and believe like our new president and congress that taking from those (who can go fast) will help those who dont wanna work.

i am also the one who has screamed from the mountain tops that the AHFS "can not and will not ever work" because we can manipulate the input (see -1.408 thread). END OF STORY.

the only way to police this is with a committee of intelligent people (none in glendora we know) who can study data from runs (and allow for atmosphere) and then look at each combo in question to determine the POTENTIAL to go fast.

last thing ive been on for years... lower these stupid easy indexes about -.050 and lets race

jack mccarthy

[Bob Pagano]

Boy if thats not the truth, More, it was 11.52 in A/SA over 30 years ago. Now its 11.30 how bad is that, folks have not figured out how to go fast in over 30 years.......crap.

[Jack McCarthy]

yeah... moral support !!

jack

[Don Kennedy]

Instead of every one complaining about this system why don't we come up with a "better Way" to help the system ? a good idea in my opinion.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

Instead of every one complaining about this system why don't we come up with a "better Way" to help the system ? a good idea in my opinion.

Get real Don.You couldn't get 4 S/SS racers to agree if it's day or night.One will say day,one will say night,one will say I don't care and the last one will give you a dumb look.We are slowly sinking into
oblivion at the hands of NHRA and ourselves.


Mr Gloom and Doom
from New Jersey

[Don Kennedy]

Ed;

I may suspect your may be close to being right,

BUT
I do know a person who can make the system right on with a valid way to do this whole factoring system with out any emotion. I know he will and can explain the "correct' way to do the factoring system if only he would speak up more.

[Jeff Lee]

Yea, I agree with Ed. Those "back east racers" they get night before we do in the west and it allows them to race in cooler temperatures because the sun sets sooner than here in Arizona and they have cool ocean breezes even if they are hundreds of miles away and we have mountains that block those breezes. And the sun rises over there first so they get to start racing before us. And right now it's almost 11 pm here but it's almost 3 am there and in just 3 hours they will wake up and can be racing while we're just waking up! How stupid is that?
And whatever some may think, I know the moon is not as intense here so gravitational pull is not as good. Somehow that is related to how the carb pushes fuel out of the bowl and allows those guys to go faster back east. I haven't figured that one out yet but I will!
Man, looks like I lost my mind there trying to make the AHFS more equal to all.
Goodnight....