The weekend in numbers

Nitro Joe Jackson · 05-24-2009, 08:25 AM

well it looks like the economy has not totally crunched drag racing as of yet.
Doing the stats there is some busy weekend and this is one of them, plus having my son home from the Army.
I do the stats for Alcohol classes, Top eliminators, Comp, Super Stock & Stock, here are the numbers from this weekends races I'm doing stats for.
D1-2 Maple Grove 346 (TAD,TAFC, TD,TS, Comp, SS & Stock)
D3 NO Bowling Green 112 (SS & Stk only)
D5-2 Brainerd, MN 162 (TAD,TAFC, TD,TS, Comp, SS & Stock)
D6-2 Mission, BC 191 (TAD,TAFC, TD,TS, Comp, SS & Stock)

IHRA
D3-3 Martin 123 (TD, TS, SS, Stock)
D3-4 N/A as of yet

D9-4 Kinston 53 (SS & Stock, TD & TS is N/A as of yet)

This is a scary 987 cars i have to do stats for this weekend, "Cut me Mick",lol
Everybody have a great weekend and hopefully see you next weekend at our first Buckeye SS/Stk, NSS Combo race at National Trails Raceway.

Gary Parker · 05-25-2009, 07:42 AM

D 1 Had 117 cars in just stock. What a great turnout.

Bob Mulry · 05-25-2009, 09:09 AM

Joe,

It looks like you will have an easy weekend coming up because Topeka is 201 entries short of the quota including 73 Super Stockers and 44 Stockers.

That's 201 entries X $270.00 entry fee = $54,270 plus whatever addition charges NHRA can come up with short on their Gross Sales.

If the 201 missing entries had brought along 1 crewmember that number grows to a $68,340 loss of Gross Sales.

That's a BIG SH-T SANDWICH to have to eat.

I don't know how long NHRA can carry this type of loss????

They had better have an updated business plan, or they also could be looking to get some of that STIMILUS money???

So all of guys & gals out there who are thinking about going to race at Topeka, the cut off for entries is today at 1:00 PM Pacific Time.

Bob

Ken Miele · 05-25-2009, 10:28 AM

Bob,

I think your numbers are a little off base. With a total of 496 cars, I think Joe will have a busy week.

Not sure why you, and some others are always looking at the quota number. A real gage on if the participation is up or down would be last years totals at the same event. last year at Topeka there was about 320 cars, with two less classes. I think it would have been about the same last year if there was the same amount classes as this year.

So your doom and gloom along with your charming way of showing your displeasure with NHRA does not hold water for this race.

Ed Fernandez · 05-25-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Bob,

I think your numbers are a little off base. With a total of 496 cars, I think Joe will have a busy week.

Not sure why you, and some others are always looking at the quota number. A real gage on if the participation is up or down would be last years totals at the same event. last year at Topeka there was about 320 cars, with two less classes. I think it would have been about the same last year if there was the same amount classes as this year.

So your doom and gloom along with your charming way of showing your displeasure with NHRA does not hold water for this race.

Here's a prime example why NHRA will #%@* us till the cows come home.No two people on this site can agree on anything.

Ed F.

Bob Mulry · 05-25-2009, 11:52 AM

Ken,

I look at that because that is the number that NHRA posts as it entry quota.

I also remember when, if you didn't have 4 or 5 grade points, you stayed home.

I guess that you are using new math because the entry number that you quoted for 2008 was incorrect by 25.59%.

The actual enrty was 430 not 320 for 2008 Topeka

They are also running 1 more elimator this year (Stock) and having Class Elimations in both Stock & Super Stock

Just new math.

Bob

Jack Matyas · 05-25-2009, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Here's a prime example why NHRA will #%@* us till the cows come home.No two people on this site can agree on anything.

Ed F.

Ed -- Maybe things would be different if your cup was half full once in awhile ....................

Ken Miele · 05-25-2009, 12:37 PM

Bob,

I did forget super comp, actually there was 427 total. At the last look, it is now 507, those numbers look pretty good to me.

Even with the extra class this year, the total would be about the same. I know your looking for NHRA to fail miserable, but I still have not seen the doom you and others are hoping for.

What does a 4 or 5 grading have to do with anything? Racers are just waiting to the last day to register.

My math be have been off, but using NHRA's quota is your way of making NHRA look like the are loosing racers. Given the economy, I think participation is still good.

So Bob, how will you spin the numbers now? 507 is still pretty stout!

Who's using the new math now?

Ed,

I will not agree with you and others that say NHRA is doomed, It may not be perfect, but judging by this years numbers, you and your supporters are in the minority when it comes to not going racing with NHRA.

At the Maple Grove points meet in div 1, there were 561 cars.

Bob Mulry · 05-25-2009, 02:39 PM

Ken,

Forgive me, but you don't have a clue of what my motives are.

So please don't try to be a mind reader and assign your thoughts to me.

We race on the west coast and the picture out here is very different from yours.

I don't have a solution, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a problem.

NHRA is the big show, but that doesn't mean the IHRA is not welcome out here.

Competition makes anyone better.

Bob

Ken Miele · 05-25-2009, 03:14 PM

Bob,

Your post is obviously negative toward NHRA, your motive is clear. The west coast has always had the problem of only one sanctioning body, nothing new there. The west coast numbers also look about the same as last year.

Like I said NHRA is not perfect, but nothing in life is, making everyone happy is an impossibility.

This thread was about numbers, you felt you needed to exploit the fact NHRA at Topeka was not looking good. Obviously they are, and all I am doing is pointing that out.

I do agree that competition is a good thing.

05-24-2009, 08:25 AM	#1
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 54 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	The weekend in numbers well it looks like the economy has not totally crunched drag racing as of yet. Doing the stats there is some busy weekend and this is one of them, plus having my son home from the Army. I do the stats for Alcohol classes, Top eliminators, Comp, Super Stock & Stock, here are the numbers from this weekends races I'm doing stats for. D1-2 Maple Grove 346 (TAD,TAFC, TD,TS, Comp, SS & Stock) D3 NO Bowling Green 112 (SS & Stk only) D5-2 Brainerd, MN 162 (TAD,TAFC, TD,TS, Comp, SS & Stock) D6-2 Mission, BC 191 (TAD,TAFC, TD,TS, Comp, SS & Stock) IHRA D3-3 Martin 123 (TD, TS, SS, Stock) D3-4 N/A as of yet D9-4 Kinston 53 (SS & Stock, TD & TS is N/A as of yet) This is a scary 987 cars i have to do stats for this weekend, "Cut me Mick",lol Everybody have a great weekend and hopefully see you next weekend at our first Buckeye SS/Stk, NSS Combo race at National Trails Raceway. __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

05-25-2009, 07:42 AM	#2
Gary Parker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Westfield Mass Posts: 527 Likes: 365 Liked 395 Times in 54 Posts	Re: The weekend in numbers D 1 Had 117 cars in just stock. What a great turnout. __________________ Gary Parker 1617 STK

05-25-2009, 09:09 AM	#3
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: The weekend in numbers Joe, It looks like you will have an easy weekend coming up because Topeka is 201 entries short of the quota including 73 Super Stockers and 44 Stockers. That's 201 entries X $270.00 entry fee = $54,270 plus whatever addition charges NHRA can come up with short on their Gross Sales. If the 201 missing entries had brought along 1 crewmember that number grows to a $68,340 loss of Gross Sales. That's a BIG SH-T SANDWICH to have to eat. I don't know how long NHRA can carry this type of loss???? They had better have an updated business plan, or they also could be looking to get some of that STIMILUS money??? So all of guys & gals out there who are thinking about going to race at Topeka, the cut off for entries is today at 1:00 PM Pacific Time. Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

05-25-2009, 10:28 AM	#4
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,832 Likes: 453 Liked 16,311 Times in 1,493 Posts	Re: The weekend in numbers Bob, I think your numbers are a little off base. With a total of 496 cars, I think Joe will have a busy week. Not sure why you, and some others are always looking at the quota number. A real gage on if the participation is up or down would be last years totals at the same event. last year at Topeka there was about 320 cars, with two less classes. I think it would have been about the same last year if there was the same amount classes as this year. So your doom and gloom along with your charming way of showing your displeasure with NHRA does not hold water for this race.

05-25-2009, 11:52 AM	#6
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: The weekend in numbers Ken, I look at that because that is the number that NHRA posts as it entry quota. I also remember when, if you didn't have 4 or 5 grade points, you stayed home. I guess that you are using new math because the entry number that you quoted for 2008 was incorrect by 25.59%. The actual enrty was 430 not 320 for 2008 Topeka They are also running 1 more elimator this year (Stock) and having Class Elimations in both Stock & Super Stock Just new math. Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

05-25-2009, 12:37 PM	#8
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,832 Likes: 453 Liked 16,311 Times in 1,493 Posts	Re: The weekend in numbers Bob, I did forget super comp, actually there was 427 total. At the last look, it is now 507, those numbers look pretty good to me. Even with the extra class this year, the total would be about the same. I know your looking for NHRA to fail miserable, but I still have not seen the doom you and others are hoping for. What does a 4 or 5 grading have to do with anything? Racers are just waiting to the last day to register. My math be have been off, but using NHRA's quota is your way of making NHRA look like the are loosing racers. Given the economy, I think participation is still good. So Bob, how will you spin the numbers now? 507 is still pretty stout! Who's using the new math now? Ed, I will not agree with you and others that say NHRA is doomed, It may not be perfect, but judging by this years numbers, you and your supporters are in the minority when it comes to not going racing with NHRA. At the Maple Grove points meet in div 1, there were 561 cars.

05-25-2009, 02:39 PM	#9
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	Re: The weekend in numbers Ken, Forgive me, but you don't have a clue of what my motives are. So please don't try to be a mind reader and assign your thoughts to me. We race on the west coast and the picture out here is very different from yours. I don't have a solution, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a problem. NHRA is the big show, but that doesn't mean the IHRA is not welcome out here. Competition makes anyone better. Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

05-25-2009, 03:14 PM	#10
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,832 Likes: 453 Liked 16,311 Times in 1,493 Posts	Re: The weekend in numbers Bob, Your post is obviously negative toward NHRA, your motive is clear. The west coast has always had the problem of only one sanctioning body, nothing new there. The west coast numbers also look about the same as last year. Like I said NHRA is not perfect, but nothing in life is, making everyone happy is an impossibility. This thread was about numbers, you felt you needed to exploit the fact NHRA at Topeka was not looking good. Obviously they are, and all I am doing is pointing that out. I do agree that competition is a good thing.