Stocker Bracket for Charity ?

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

This was all in response to another thread that may or not be followed.

The ONLY reasons for this post is to test the waters and see if anyone else would be interested in participating

If you are interested let me know between Pomona and Gainesville (or shortly after) what works best depending on your travel schedule in between.

The sooner we get this off the ground the sooner it will get the money to those who can use it.

PM Me if you are and lets see if we can work out something agreeable to all.

I think its a good cause and also need someone to act as a "stake holder" as we call it in pool. Someone above reproach, they probably wont reccomend themselves so people of high moral fiber, suggestions and then I/we can approach them and see if its something theyre willing to do.

Also I dont see limiting it just to stockers, but footbraking seems a level field.

Originally Posted by drooze

W e l l I a m t y p i n g t h i s r e a l l y s l o w s o y o u c a n u n d e r s t a n d i t a n d n o t c l a i m i t s a y s s o m e t h i n g i t d o s e n t o r l a t e r i n t e n t i o n a l l y m i s q u o t e i t t o s u i t y o u r o w n e n d s

Well the 76 wagon comment wasnt directed at you, didn know you had one......I tried to think of a Dodge Aspen Wagon Circa 1976 that was a car that didnt get made as not to offend....but since I wasnt sure they didnt make something of the like, I figured that would offend the least people out there.....But I struck the Aspen or Volare part since, I wasnt sure.

But leave it to you to think it was directed at you. Looks like youll put yourself in the line of "fire" as it were no matter what it takes in regards to anything I post.

Ive already said Im a **** driver, what EXACTLY are we betting on ? Who wins and dosent red ?, that dosent seem fair for your side, who has the best RT ? Who dosent break out, or in a staggered to see who breaks first ? who drops out of the elims first, WHAT EXACTLY is the Bet ? I need to know exactly what I am betting on.

"How about one more wager that you will never show up to HONOR? My kid will bracket race you in his no name 76 Dodge against you personally in your Big Buck Hero car and loser donates $1,000. to American Red Cross..." Is clear in some points and Im guessing coming from you intentionally misleading and vauge.

Well have to hammer out exactly what we are betting on, and where, Gainesville may be better timing wise. Im have no doubt we can work something out, Im flexible.

The stakes are good, and the cause good, Im game $1000 seems fair to me, Just have a $1000 Bank Check on hand and an envelope, that way the winner can take the check and mail it themselves , make it out to American Red Cross. The winner can then decide what to do with the check they still hold, either donate it as well or get it cancelled at the bank (I think they charge $25 here to do that on a cashiers check) I have the 1000 sitting on my desk and will go get a bank check today if we come to agreeable terms.

In as much as my "Honor" goes thats something you

a)Have no idea of , I keep commitments I make even at my own expense and if they negativley affect me, because my word is as solid as it gets and the only thing I can call my own beyond infuence or control

b)From you prior intentionally misleading posts is clear something you dont have to worry about yourself.

I damm near forgot, the first pic was taken just for you.....I had to be reminded, the second is to clear any questions you may have on the ability to backup the bet that you "Claim" will never be honored. We couldnt figure out if after that last post on the above thread if you went on vacation, were spending time with the family, went to jail, went on a drinking binge, didnt much matter we just hadnt seen any posts from you worthy of the pic....so here it is.......a joint effort I assure you.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4290224579_642b326734.jpg
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4290340227_83413ab33d.jpg

But John, why think small ? I mean if this is just your way of puffing up YOUR chest and this that and the other, I would suggest you think BIGGER, You left TOO many chips on the table for me not to pick up.

How about this for size, we let ANYONE Join in this "Bracket" event, everyone puts in the $1000 ALL to be donated to the American Red Cross, WINNER Picks the Directed Donation fun it goes to in the Red Cross. If I want it as the winner to go for the "Haitian Earthquake Fund" thats good, if you win and want it to go to the "Stop Sexual Cruelty Charges for Livestock" then it goes there, WHOEVER the Winner is they get THEIR choice instead of seeing the money just hit the General Fund, BUT it goes THROUGH the Red Cross.The winners Returned their $1000 entry and can do with it as they wish. The remaining sum in donated IN ITS ENTIRETY to the ARC. If we even get 1 or 2 other entrants it will make for more money for a worth cause, and if everyone is so certain of a win, then they will get their funds back to do with as they wish, but at the same time they will be the person that gets to direct the funds for the usage of the ARC as they see fit....

I even know a track in Texas that would probabbly be willing to host the event and get it some press. Should help bring more people to the event and racers. Ive got a call into them now, the owner wont be in till later or tommorow.

Unless, and just because the only thing you thought of was a way to pick it up and make it all about you, and your "Triumph" so you could really puff your chest a little bigger for you and the people you think look up to you.......and really didnt care for the charity aspect, but this approach should correct any issues with that.

Think BIGGER John....thinking small "is so last year" ..... keep up if you can.

Im even willing if we can find an agreeable and trustworth party to have them hold the funds NOW so any bull**** you may want to sling about me not "Honoring" my commitments looses the stink you seem to try to put on everything.

Put your money where your mouth is is the quote I seem to hear here a lot. Ill do it today....if we can agree on a venune and form for the "event"

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN
Thank you very much for the kind words about my kids 76 Dodge Wagon! By the way at 19 years old he won one Divisional Races and Runner Up another one in 2009.! He also finished in the top 4 in Division 7 in a $5,000 dollar car built and raced on his bracket winnings! Not many of us can afford a $100,000. race car but that does not mean we can't race and win. Any monkey can go out and buy an expensive race car and hire a driver, but what sort of satisfaction does that give anybody? Build it, Drive it, Win with it yourself and then maybe you will get the respect you seem to think you merit!!How about one more wager that you will never show up to HONOR? My kid will bracket race you in his no name 76 Dodge against you personally in your Big Buck Hero car and loser donates $1,000. to American Red Cross...We could probably do that in a time trial at Pomona or Phoenix. Like the old country song says: A Little less talk........and a Lot more action.

[Sid Munson1091]

GTX John: Save your breath and your blood pressure. Pay no attention to "Drooze" ( the S/ss wannabee) not only does he have no drag racing experIence he doesn't even have a race car !!!

[Hagen Gary]

Please telll me thats not true Sid. I've spent a couple of hours of my day off trying to teach Drooze something about class racing. The picture in the link seems to look like a DP car, and also seems to tell you where to go with those comments.

Also, from what I've allways heard, The red cross is one of the worst Charities to donate to as far as how much of your money actully goes to help. How about we give the cash to a couple of young s/ss racers or older racers kids to help pay for their College tuition? I'm sure somebody could nominate a few deserving candidates. That will do more good in my opinion.

[GTX JOHN]

Thanks for the good advice Sid! I'm going to try real hard to take it. John Irving

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Find another Charity, I dont care, something you all feel is more "Worthy"

Salvation Army....Greenpeace, ASPCA....I dont care... look online for breakout and administrative overheads used for "Office" and Upper echelon execs and find one where we can direct the donations to any portion of the fund the winner sees fit and the charity skims the least off the top, they all do.

Simple......

But in this response I still havent seen an answer as to Format ?

Youve got to come up with something we can put out for all to say before you "take" it.... I thought the point was charity , I guess thats why I preffer to have a stake holder or a cashiers check made out in advance ? Hmmm....

Still waiting on a format to negotiate..........waiting.........I think waiting..........

Time to put up or shutup as you (I think and could be wrong) said to me ? Maybe it was someone else.

Am I to "Assume" from your respone to Sid, this is something YOU presented and are going to back out of ?No I dont think that the case but in abscence of an answer as to format what am I and others to think ? Im here in cash in hand....let stop talking and do it , NOW so we can get others on board, itll be fun and for a good cause.....

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

Thanks for the good advice Sid! I'm going to try real hard to take it. John Irving

[Sid Munson1091]

Originally Posted by drooze

Find another Charity, I dont care, something you all feel is more "Worthy"

How about YOU being the charity Drooze?? All the $$$ we collect will go for you getting some good proffesional help at your local "shrink" Doctors office as soon as possible !!!!

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Originally Posted by Sid Munson1091

How you being the charity Drooze?? All the $$$ we collect will go for you getting some good proffesional help at your local "shrink" Doctors office as soon as possible !!!!

Nah thats alright, Id rather give "WORTHY" cause, something it will have an effect on......and since I dont need the money it dosent make much sense ? Im me, always will be...nothing to change.

[Harry 6674]

A college education? Do you know what the percentage of graduates who work in their degree fields is? The last I heard it was 6%. Of course they could learn to fill out their unemployment paperwork in school, sort of a head start.

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Hmmm...an education for one person, who only has a 6% chance of practicing in that field ? Dosent sound like good odds to me, besides who would choose what single party is a worth recipient ?

Still waiting on John Irvings answer.........still waiting...........still waiting......

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

A college education? Do you know what the percentage of graduates who work in their degree fields is? The last I heard it was 6%. Of course they could learn to fill out their unemployment paperwork in school, sort of a head start.

[Hagen Gary]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

A college education? Do you know what the percentage of graduates who work in their degree fields is? The last I heard it was 6%. Of course they could learn to fill out their unemployment paperwork in school, sort of a head start.

An education is still an education no matter what field you work in. Did you know that studies show that 86% of Americans don't know what came first. The Civil War or The Revolutionary War. That is sickoning to me. Even if you don't know time lines, as long as you know what the basis of what each one of them were about, then you could place which came first. YUK. Like I said before, I'm sure someone could recomend a kid who is deserving and will put that money to use educating him/herself. Or you could send your money to a nonprofit organization where the ceo makes a billion a year and 15% of your money goes to the cause. We all know this race won't ever happen, so whats the point of this thread anyway?