Rarest Drag car ever made......

W J · 07-01-2010, 09:47 AM

SEARCH: 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 Dragonsnake CSX3198....then look at bottom to see: packautomotivemuseum.com Click on for a great writup and many pics....I saw this car run many times....in its day, was the best of the best anywhere in A/SP.....Who here remembers this one-of-kind Shelby-built on order car and it's talented driver? If you're a racer or just a fan, you will love this... WJ

Ed Fernandez · 07-01-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by W J

SEARCH: 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 Dragonsnake CSX3198....then look at bottom to see: packerautomotivemuseum.com Click on for a great writup and many pics....I saw this car run many times....in its day, was the best of the best anywhere in A/SP.....Who here remembers this car and it's talented driver? If you're a racer or just a fan, you will love this... WJ

Bruce Larson drove one if I remember correctly.

W J · 07-01-2010, 10:12 AM

Ed, living on the eastern seaboard especially, (ran Jersey tracks alot--also, NOT a Tasca Ford sponsored car)....you should know this, like me....you're old enough. 1966 Winternationals (Pomona) A/SP champ, 1966 Summernationals (Indy) champ A/SP....Many Street Eliminator wins, as well....Did you look up the site?? Not Bruce Larson....BTW, you heading for Lebanon Valley?

WJ

X-TECH MAN · 07-01-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Bruce Larson drove one if I remember correctly.

Bruce Larsons Cobra owned by Jim Costalow was a 289 small block with webber carbs.

W J · 07-01-2010, 10:44 AM

Terry, ONLY one 1966, 427 side-oiler Cobra Dragonsnake built and prepped by Shelby for drag race application....also a great story on this car, the Ma. dealer who ordered, and their employee who maintained and drove it in Hemmings Muscle Machines, Nov. '04....

WJ

mtkawboy · 07-01-2010, 11:01 AM

The Dragon Snake was indeed a 289 car with weber carbs. I saw it run at the greatest drag race I ever saw, the 1967 Nascar Winternationals at Deland Fla held during Nascar Speed Weeks. Every heavy hitter in the country was there and its was cold & damp. We set the Nascar P/S record in a heavy fog with our 283/185 4 speed 59 Chevy Biscayne. A drunk actually died in the stands, passing out and laying there overnight at 35 degree temps

W J · 07-01-2010, 12:14 PM

kawboy: Not the same car as one I'm refering to.....

WJ

X-TECH MAN · 07-01-2010, 03:16 PM

Well its been all day and no one has come up with the answer. The only 66 427 Cobra that I remember is/was owned by a Gus Zuidema and sponsored by Harr Ford. It won the AA/SP class (not the A/SP class) at the 1966 Indy Nationals and it was kind of the same color as Bruce Larsons 289 65 Cobra. Im not sure if this is the one that was at the Daytona NASCAR Winternationals or the NHRA Winternationals? They were fast primarliy because they were approx 500 lbs lighter than the Corvettes.

W J · 07-01-2010, 04:01 PM

Yes Terry, The '66 427 Shelby Dragonsnake Cobra was ordered and owned by now closed, Harr Ford in New England (Worcester, Ma.) Harr also held a authorized Shelby franchise. Car was maintained and driven by the late Gus Zuidema, former preformance service manager at Harr. Zuidema, a top-notch machinist and engine builder won 1966 Pomona Winternationals event and 1966 Summernationals event at Indy, along w/many A/SP and Street Eliminator wins up and down the eastern seaboard for the 1966 race season. The car was campaigned by Harr for only the 1966 NHRA season. If you do the search mentioned in my 1st post in this thread, you'll get all the details of this car and its complete history.....there's also large feature story: "Venomous Snake" in Nov. '04 issue of Hemmings' "Muscle Machines" which is also accessible online if you simply type it into a search. It's worth the search....very informative reading about the ONE and ONLY 427 factory-built/ factory drag--prepped 1966 Shelby Dragonsnake Cobra, built and sold by Shelby for private drag race use. Regards, WJ

Paul Ceasrine · 07-01-2010, 04:26 PM

WJ,
Not the first, but maybe the second rarest.
1969 Corvette ZL-1 (Only 2 made)
If 50 were built, I think they would have been classed in SS/A,
and the Hemi Cuda's and Darts would have stayed in SS/B.
Does that sound right?
And wasn't there a 69' Mustang 427 SOHC 'Cammer' proto-type
for SS/A in 69'?
Paul

07-01-2010, 09:47 AM	#1
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rarest Drag car ever made...... SEARCH: 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 Dragonsnake CSX3198....then look at bottom to see: packautomotivemuseum.com Click on for a great writup and many pics....I saw this car run many times....in its day, was the best of the best anywhere in A/SP.....Who here remembers this one-of-kind Shelby-built on order car and it's talented driver? If you're a racer or just a fan, you will love this... WJ Last edited by W J; 07-02-2010 at 12:08 PM. Reason: add content....

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W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Rarest Drag car ever made...... Ed, living on the eastern seaboard especially, (ran Jersey tracks alot--also, NOT a Tasca Ford sponsored car)....you should know this, like me....you're old enough. 1966 Winternationals (Pomona) A/SP champ, 1966 Summernationals (Indy) champ A/SP....Many Street Eliminator wins, as well....Did you look up the site?? Not Bruce Larson....BTW, you heading for Lebanon Valley? WJ Last edited by W J; 07-01-2010 at 11:05 AM.

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W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Rarest Drag car ever made...... Terry, ONLY one 1966, 427 side-oiler Cobra Dragonsnake built and prepped by Shelby for drag race application....also a great story on this car, the Ma. dealer who ordered, and their employee who maintained and drove it in Hemmings Muscle Machines, Nov. '04.... WJ Last edited by W J; 07-01-2010 at 12:37 PM.

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mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 282 Likes: 183 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Rarest Drag car ever made...... The Dragon Snake was indeed a 289 car with weber carbs. I saw it run at the greatest drag race I ever saw, the 1967 Nascar Winternationals at Deland Fla held during Nascar Speed Weeks. Every heavy hitter in the country was there and its was cold & damp. We set the Nascar P/S record in a heavy fog with our 283/185 4 speed 59 Chevy Biscayne. A drunk actually died in the stands, passing out and laying there overnight at 35 degree temps

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W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Rarest Drag car ever made...... kawboy: Not the same car as one I'm refering to..... WJ

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X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Rarest Drag car ever made...... Well its been all day and no one has come up with the answer. The only 66 427 Cobra that I remember is/was owned by a Gus Zuidema and sponsored by Harr Ford. It won the AA/SP class (not the A/SP class) at the 1966 Indy Nationals and it was kind of the same color as Bruce Larsons 289 65 Cobra. Im not sure if this is the one that was at the Daytona NASCAR Winternationals or the NHRA Winternationals? They were fast primarliy because they were approx 500 lbs lighter than the Corvettes. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 07-01-2010 at 03:19 PM.

07-01-2010, 04:01 PM	#9
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Rarest Drag car ever made...... Yes Terry, The '66 427 Shelby Dragonsnake Cobra was ordered and owned by now closed, Harr Ford in New England (Worcester, Ma.) Harr also held a authorized Shelby franchise. Car was maintained and driven by the late Gus Zuidema, former preformance service manager at Harr. Zuidema, a top-notch machinist and engine builder won 1966 Pomona Winternationals event and 1966 Summernationals event at Indy, along w/many A/SP and Street Eliminator wins up and down the eastern seaboard for the 1966 race season. The car was campaigned by Harr for only the 1966 NHRA season. If you do the search mentioned in my 1st post in this thread, you'll get all the details of this car and its complete history.....there's also large feature story: "Venomous Snake" in Nov. '04 issue of Hemmings' "Muscle Machines" which is also accessible online if you simply type it into a search. It's worth the search....very informative reading about the ONE and ONLY 427 factory-built/ factory drag--prepped 1966 Shelby Dragonsnake Cobra, built and sold by Shelby for private drag race use. Regards, WJ Last edited by W J; 07-01-2010 at 04:14 PM. Reason: add...

07-01-2010, 04:26 PM	#10
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Rarest Drag car ever made...... WJ, Not the first, but maybe the second rarest. 1969 Corvette ZL-1 (Only 2 made) If 50 were built, I think they would have been classed in SS/A, and the Hemi Cuda's and Darts would have stayed in SS/B. Does that sound right? And wasn't there a 69' Mustang 427 SOHC 'Cammer' proto-type for SS/A in 69'? Paul