2011 Rule Book Amendments

Jason Oldfield · 10-26-2010, 05:04 PM

Can be found here: http://www.nhra.com/UserFiles/file/2...Amendments.pdf

Or, you can go to the main NHRA page and hunt for the tiny box that reads "Racer Updates" among all the distracting clutter, and click on the "Racer Updates" button. Why this wouldn't be on the main "COMPETITION" tab is beyond me (more logic).

Biggest change I can see is that starting Jan. 1, 2012 oil-retention devices (e.g. diapers or belly pans) will be required on all S/St entries, and beginning June 1, 2011 all roll-cage padding in S/G needs to meet SFI spec 45.1 where the driver's helmet could hit the roll cage (also for cars running 9.99 or quicker).

Oh, and for you guys with secondary braking systems, they're now going to be permitted as long as both are connected together and activate all braking systems on the car at once (i.e. you can't use the hand brake to only control the front brakes).

As a side note, did anybody know that the maximum burnout time is 5 seconds? That's a pretty long burnout, but I honestly didn't know there was ANY time limit...

Duane Dagostino · 10-26-2010, 05:57 PM

They still don't get the fact that on a dragster, 2 independant systems with 2 m/c's,and 2 sets of calipers is a safety plus....

Rich Biebel · 10-26-2010, 06:22 PM

I am not going to remove the handle on my hand brake actuated set of brakes and I am also not going to connect both sets of calipers to work off one MC. NHRA Tech is completely wrong on this one and it's hard to believe they don't see the logic or safety factor in having two independent sets......It's my car and my life.....I will either race it as it is or stay home....

lazrcng · 10-26-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

I am not going to remove the handle on my hand brake actuated set of brakes and I am also not going to connect both sets of calipers to work off one MC. NHRA Tech is completely wrong on this one and it's hard to believe they don't see the logic or safety factor in having two independent sets......It's my car and my life.....I will either race it as it is or stay home....

Well said, I absolutely agree.

Rick Bailey · 10-26-2010, 07:22 PM

Ok we all know that NHRA says NO ! to the independant brake system... but I would like to hear their reason........maybe Rock could help here.

No I don't have a second system, but I think it could be wise....

Rick

Chris Williams · 10-27-2010, 01:16 AM

I think you guys are reading these rules wrong. The applicable sentence is

Quote:

Originally Posted by NHRA 2011 Rule Book Amendments

Secondary braking systems are permitted as long as the hand brake and foot brake are connected such that any movement of either engages both master cylinders and all calipers.

Note the use of "both master cylinders and all calipers". That means systems with dual MCs and multiple calipers are fine. You just have to activate both with both the foot and hand brake. Seems OK to me??

Duane Dagostino · 10-27-2010, 07:06 AM

Chris...that would give you twice the brakes...the idea is to have 2 systems in case one fails...twice the brakes improves the chances of locking up if hit too hard...all of us who have this set-up would just like an explanation from NHRA as to why this such a problem. I feel they are making my car less safe!!

BKSG1198 · 10-27-2010, 08:19 AM

What happens if you do a burnout longer then 5 seconds?

GaryGoFast · 10-27-2010, 08:50 AM

In order to move the classes along so Alcohol may have its alloted time added to offset oil cleanup, NHRA has decided to enforce it 5 second burnout policy, any person doing a burnout for more than 5 seconds will be forced to install a secondary timer to control this issue.
These NHRA approved devices can be purchased at our ....................................

Jason Oldfield · 10-27-2010, 12:28 PM

Roflmao! :d

Quote:

Originally Posted by garygofast

in order to move the classes along so alcohol may have its alloted time added to offset oil cleanup, nhra has decided to enforce it 5 second burnout policy, any person doing a burnout for more than 5 seconds will be forced to install a secondary timer to control this issue.
These nhra approved devices can be purchased at our ....................................

10-26-2010, 05:04 PM	#1
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	2011 Rule Book Amendments Can be found here: http://www.nhra.com/UserFiles/file/2...Amendments.pdf Or, you can go to the main NHRA page and hunt for the tiny box that reads "Racer Updates" among all the distracting clutter, and click on the "Racer Updates" button. Why this wouldn't be on the main "COMPETITION" tab is beyond me (more logic). Biggest change I can see is that starting Jan. 1, 2012 oil-retention devices (e.g. diapers or belly pans) will be required on all S/St entries, and beginning June 1, 2011 all roll-cage padding in S/G needs to meet SFI spec 45.1 where the driver's helmet could hit the roll cage (also for cars running 9.99 or quicker). Oh, and for you guys with secondary braking systems, they're now going to be permitted as long as both are connected together and activate all braking systems on the car at once (i.e. you can't use the hand brake to only control the front brakes). As a side note, did anybody know that the maximum burnout time is 5 seconds? That's a pretty long burnout, but I honestly didn't know there was ANY time limit... __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

10-26-2010, 05:57 PM	#2
Duane Dagostino Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fl. Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2011 Rule Book Amendments They still don't get the fact that on a dragster, 2 independant systems with 2 m/c's,and 2 sets of calipers is a safety plus.... __________________ Duane Dagostino 1821 S/C, S/G

10-26-2010, 06:22 PM	#3
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,314 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: 2011 Rule Book Amendments I am not going to remove the handle on my hand brake actuated set of brakes and I am also not going to connect both sets of calipers to work off one MC. NHRA Tech is completely wrong on this one and it's hard to believe they don't see the logic or safety factor in having two independent sets......It's my car and my life.....I will either race it as it is or stay home.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

10-26-2010, 07:22 PM	#5
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: 2011 Rule Book Amendments Ok we all know that NHRA says NO ! to the independant brake system... but I would like to hear their reason........maybe Rock could help here. No I don't have a second system, but I think it could be wise.... Rick __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

10-27-2010, 07:06 AM	#7
Duane Dagostino Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fl. Posts: 74 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2011 Rule Book Amendments Chris...that would give you twice the brakes...the idea is to have 2 systems in case one fails...twice the brakes improves the chances of locking up if hit too hard...all of us who have this set-up would just like an explanation from NHRA as to why this such a problem. I feel they are making my car less safe!! __________________ Duane Dagostino 1821 S/C, S/G

10-27-2010, 08:19 AM	#8
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,615 Likes: 95 Liked 1,255 Times in 384 Posts	Re: 2011 Rule Book Amendments What happens if you do a burnout longer then 5 seconds?

10-27-2010, 08:50 AM	#9
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 2011 Rule Book Amendments In order to move the classes along so Alcohol may have its alloted time added to offset oil cleanup, NHRA has decided to enforce it 5 second burnout policy, any person doing a burnout for more than 5 seconds will be forced to install a secondary timer to control this issue. These NHRA approved devices can be purchased at our .................................... __________________ Gary Federico S/St, S/G 1814