No ARMY Money ?

Ron Zenzen 5402 · 03-03-2011, 11:32 AM

Minnesota Senator to intro a bill to remove all Army money from motorsports today. That should be interesting.

63corvette · 03-03-2011, 12:52 PM

I like motor sports including NASCAR but in my opinion Tony Schumacher is not a good steward of my tax money.
This is not where TAX money should be spent with the budget issues now that our Federal Government has...
It is 60% borrowed funds....
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

Jim Kaekel · 03-03-2011, 01:10 PM

Multi-millionaires getting tax money to go racing...no wonder the U.S. is broke! Schumacher's been racing on the taxpayers money for quite some time now...pretty pathetic when you consider the fact that they also own Schumacher Electric that makes battery chargers that can be found in every Wal-Mart. Of course, Schumacher Electric had no problem closing a factory in Illinois and moving it to Mexico a couple of years ago! Most of their battery chargers are made in China as well. And they call him "Sarge"...all B.S. marketing. If he's really "Sarge", send him to Iraq or Afghanistan and see how he does! Maybe it's about time he started "racing on his own dime" rather than the back of the taxpayers. I'm done venting...my .02.

Nitro Joe Jackson · 03-03-2011, 03:13 PM

well like i told you guys before, my son is in the army and has done both Iraq & Afghanistan stints now and you would not be-leave the money he had to Shell out before going over there for gear, its a crime and I for one is soooooooooooooo glad when all the ARMY sponsored cars go by the wayside.

Eric Kitzan · 03-03-2011, 03:39 PM

Do we really want people defending our country because the Army sponsors a race car anyway? I think they should want to join for more personal reasons.

mopacltd · 03-03-2011, 03:44 PM

What do you mean "he had to shell out a bunch of money" before he left? The Army is sending him in "harms way" and not supplying him with the neccessary equiptment? That is REVOLTING!
Best wishes to your son and thank him for his service.

Jim Kaekel · 03-03-2011, 03:53 PM

[QUOTE=mopacltd;243651]What do you mean "he had to shell out a bunch of money" before he left?

My nephew, who used to accompany me to the races many times, has been in the army the last couple of years and has experienced the same thing. There's alot of stuff that he's had to pay for out of his own pocket that they sure as hell didn't tell him when they recruited him. He did a tour in Iraq just over a year or so ago, and is getting sent to Afghanistan this summer. I sure as hell don't expect that "Sarge" is going over there anytime soon...he couldn't carry my nephew's "sack".

mopacltd · 03-03-2011, 04:21 PM

Low pay, a chance to get killed, away from loved ones for long periods of time and now have to pay for essentials! It wasn't that way when I served during the VietNam era.

Chuck Beach · 03-03-2011, 04:36 PM

I am not defending him but I don't think it is right to trash talk Schumacher just because he has gotten an Army deal. Same thing with Ryan Newman or Mark Martin (once sponsered by the Army). All of the millionaire pros (except Jim Head) get money from some company or organization. I am not saying that it is right for the Army to spend tax payer money on sponsoring race cars but I if they are going to do it (spend advertising $$), better here in motor sports than maybe some where else.

Joe, tell your son we are proud of him defending our country.

Alan Roehrich · 03-03-2011, 04:42 PM

Just a thought here folks, and by no means am I a fan of the government spending an extra nickel, and having friends and family serving, I'm disgusted by the idea that they have to pay for any piece of equipment they might need or want as well. I'm no big fan of fuel racing, or the Schumachers.

The Pentagon gets a certain amount of money to spend on recruiting. The sponsorships are paid from that fund. There are dozens, maybe hundreds, of ways they can spend recruiting money. But they WILL get their recruiting budget, and they WILL spend it. Whether or not motorsports sponsorship is the very best way to spend recruiting dollars is something that few, if any of us have any knowledge of. If Congress manages to ban recruiting funding from use as motorsports sponsorship, you can bet it will be spent elsewhere, it's not going to be saved.

Further, you can bet that this bill is political grandstanding. Nothing more, nothing less.

Don't be fooled by a bunch of rhetoric. And don't think that if the bill passes, the money won't be spent elsewhere.

03-03-2011, 11:32 AM	#1
Ron Zenzen 5402 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 76 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No ARMY Money ? Minnesota Senator to intro a bill to remove all Army money from motorsports today. That should be interesting. __________________ Ron Zenzen 5402 SS

03-03-2011, 12:52 PM	#2
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 551 Likes: 127 Liked 353 Times in 102 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? I like motor sports including NASCAR but in my opinion Tony Schumacher is not a good steward of my tax money. This is not where TAX money should be spent with the budget issues now that our Federal Government has... It is 60% borrowed funds.... My 2 Cents Rick Cates

03-03-2011, 01:10 PM	#3
Jim Kaekel VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,227 Likes: 133 Liked 531 Times in 108 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? Multi-millionaires getting tax money to go racing...no wonder the U.S. is broke! Schumacher's been racing on the taxpayers money for quite some time now...pretty pathetic when you consider the fact that they also own Schumacher Electric that makes battery chargers that can be found in every Wal-Mart. Of course, Schumacher Electric had no problem closing a factory in Illinois and moving it to Mexico a couple of years ago! Most of their battery chargers are made in China as well. And they call him "Sarge"...all B.S. marketing. If he's really "Sarge", send him to Iraq or Afghanistan and see how he does! Maybe it's about time he started "racing on his own dime" rather than the back of the taxpayers. I'm done venting...my .02. __________________ Jim Kaekel 3836 STK

03-03-2011, 03:13 PM	#4
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 58 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? well like i told you guys before, my son is in the army and has done both Iraq & Afghanistan stints now and you would not be-leave the money he had to Shell out before going over there for gear, its a crime and I for one is soooooooooooooo glad when all the ARMY sponsored cars go by the wayside. __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

03-03-2011, 03:39 PM	#5
Eric Kitzan Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Glen ullin ND Posts: 62 Likes: 3 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? Do we really want people defending our country because the Army sponsors a race car anyway? I think they should want to join for more personal reasons. __________________ Eric Kitzan 66 Chevelle Malibu Wagon Stocker Last edited by Eric Kitzan; 03-03-2011 at 03:42 PM.

03-03-2011, 03:44 PM	#6
mopacltd Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: yarnell,az Posts: 312 Likes: 412 Liked 124 Times in 44 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? What do you mean "he had to shell out a bunch of money" before he left? The Army is sending him in "harms way" and not supplying him with the neccessary equiptment? That is REVOLTING! Best wishes to your son and thank him for his service.

03-03-2011, 03:53 PM	#7
Jim Kaekel VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,227 Likes: 133 Liked 531 Times in 108 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? [QUOTE=mopacltd;243651]What do you mean "he had to shell out a bunch of money" before he left? My nephew, who used to accompany me to the races many times, has been in the army the last couple of years and has experienced the same thing. There's alot of stuff that he's had to pay for out of his own pocket that they sure as hell didn't tell him when they recruited him. He did a tour in Iraq just over a year or so ago, and is getting sent to Afghanistan this summer. I sure as hell don't expect that "Sarge" is going over there anytime soon...he couldn't carry my nephew's "sack". __________________ Jim Kaekel 3836 STK

03-03-2011, 04:21 PM	#8
mopacltd Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: yarnell,az Posts: 312 Likes: 412 Liked 124 Times in 44 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? Low pay, a chance to get killed, away from loved ones for long periods of time and now have to pay for essentials! It wasn't that way when I served during the VietNam era.

03-03-2011, 04:36 PM	#9
Chuck Beach Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Delaware, Ohio Posts: 664 Likes: 12 Liked 58 Times in 13 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? I am not defending him but I don't think it is right to trash talk Schumacher just because he has gotten an Army deal. Same thing with Ryan Newman or Mark Martin (once sponsered by the Army). All of the millionaire pros (except Jim Head) get money from some company or organization. I am not saying that it is right for the Army to spend tax payer money on sponsoring race cars but I if they are going to do it (spend advertising $$), better here in motor sports than maybe some where else. Joe, tell your son we are proud of him defending our country. __________________ Chuck Beach 3340 STK Last edited by Chuck Beach; 03-03-2011 at 04:42 PM.

03-03-2011, 04:42 PM	#10
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,111 Likes: 1,570 Liked 1,814 Times in 413 Posts	Re: No ARMY Money ? Just a thought here folks, and by no means am I a fan of the government spending an extra nickel, and having friends and family serving, I'm disgusted by the idea that they have to pay for any piece of equipment they might need or want as well. I'm no big fan of fuel racing, or the Schumachers. The Pentagon gets a certain amount of money to spend on recruiting. The sponsorships are paid from that fund. There are dozens, maybe hundreds, of ways they can spend recruiting money. But they WILL get their recruiting budget, and they WILL spend it. Whether or not motorsports sponsorship is the very best way to spend recruiting dollars is something that few, if any of us have any knowledge of. If Congress manages to ban recruiting funding from use as motorsports sponsorship, you can bet it will be spent elsewhere, it's not going to be saved. Further, you can bet that this bill is political grandstanding. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't be fooled by a bunch of rhetoric. And don't think that if the bill passes, the money won't be spent elsewhere. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S