Noob question

Strittan · 01-03-2012, 07:33 PM

I've been looking at some stick shift Nova's on YouTube, and boy are these screaming little small-block cars cool or what!? However, it got me kinda curious. I noticed these cars are raced in SS/H, SS/I, SS/J, SS/K and SS/L. How is this possible? The 283 and 327 are two combinations, right? What are the others?

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I'm not a racer and I don't have a rule book.

Strittan

Ed Carpenter · 01-03-2012, 08:30 PM

The Chevy II's and Novas that run in G,H and I are the 327/275 combos and the cars running in J,K and L run the 283/220 for the most part. I know a few that run the 327/250 combo also in J. Hope that answers your question. Ed

Strittan · 01-03-2012, 10:25 PM

Yeah, thanks for the answer.

Darrin Christen · 01-03-2012, 10:47 PM

1963-67 chevy novas came with 283"and 327" engines. They also came with 4 and 6 cylinder engines. Maybe I'm looking at the rules wrong, but doesn't a 327" 275hp combo fit into F,G, and H in a 66 or 67 chevy II?

Ron Middleton · 01-03-2012, 11:12 PM

Larry Stewart Jr./Sr. run their '67 Chevy II 327/275 in F and G the last couple of years.

Don Fardie · 01-04-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Middleton

Larry Stewart Jr./Sr. run their '67 Chevy II 327/275 in F and G the last couple of years.

Is Larry's car a 66 or 67? A 67 is a natural "E" car, so I'm not sure how he runs it in "G". The 66 has a better weight break and is a natural "F", so then it could run "G"

JeffM · 01-04-2012, 09:41 AM

The 1966 327 automatic supersport trim cars fall into H. The non supersport 2 door coupe falls into G. 1967 327 automatic supersport trim and non supersport 2 doors both fall into G. Either can go up or down a class.

Ron Middleton · 01-04-2012, 10:17 AM

The Chevy II that Larry and son run is a '67. Class guide lists it:
NOVA SS Auto Stick
Coupe 2 Dr (Sport) 9.28 9.53

S/SS Factor 275/307 275/299
w OEM heads

Making it a natural G car SS/G 9.00-9.49 and since you can move up or down a class it will also make F and H.

SS/GSI · 01-04-2012, 11:15 AM

The 327/275 hp combo in an automatic is factored @ 307 in an automatic and 299 in a stick. Larry jr. has a '67 SS; however he uses a replacement head which believe it or not is only rated @ 304 due to the fact that the extra 5hp added for replacement head is only since the rule was implemented which the combination was at 299! A little crazy to comprehend but correct. Cars that run F stick or auto are usually post cars due to them being physically lighter. Larry might run F; however I can guarantee he's not even close to minimum! A '66 or '67 SS fits G with some hard work on lightening the car but will easily get to minimum in H with minimal and properly placed ballast. Any way you put it these models are in the top 5 all time for true SS'ers. Stick or Auto, cool either way!

JeffM · 01-04-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SS/GSI

The 327/275 hp combo in an automatic is factored @ 307 in an automatic and 299 in a stick. Larry jr. has a '67 SS; however he uses a replacement head which believe it or not is only rated @ 304 due to the fact that the extra 5hp added for replacement head is only since the rule was implemented which the combination was at 299! A little crazy to comprehend but correct. Cars that run F stick or auto are usually post cars due to them being physically lighter. Larry might run F; however I can guarantee he's not even close to minimum! A '66 or '67 SS fits G with some hard work on lightening the car but will easily get to minimum in H with minimal and properly placed ballast. Any way you put it these models are in the top 5 all time for true SS'ers. Stick or Auto, cool either way!

I think they are in the top 5 with NHRA factored hp as well!

01-03-2012, 07:33 PM	#1
Strittan Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 61 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Noob question I've been looking at some stick shift Nova's on YouTube, and boy are these screaming little small-block cars cool or what!? However, it got me kinda curious. I noticed these cars are raced in SS/H, SS/I, SS/J, SS/K and SS/L. How is this possible? The 283 and 327 are two combinations, right? What are the others? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I'm not a racer and I don't have a rule book. Strittan

01-03-2012, 08:30 PM	#2
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Noob question The Chevy II's and Novas that run in G,H and I are the 327/275 combos and the cars running in J,K and L run the 283/220 for the most part. I know a few that run the 327/250 combo also in J. Hope that answers your question. Ed __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

01-03-2012, 10:25 PM	#3
Strittan Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 61 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Noob question Yeah, thanks for the answer.

01-03-2012, 10:47 PM	#4
Darrin Christen Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Des Allemands, LA Posts: 365 Likes: 8 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Noob question 1963-67 chevy novas came with 283"and 327" engines. They also came with 4 and 6 cylinder engines. Maybe I'm looking at the rules wrong, but doesn't a 327" 275hp combo fit into F,G, and H in a 66 or 67 chevy II? __________________ 4878 SS/GA 66CHEVY II

01-03-2012, 11:12 PM	#5
Ron Middleton Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Jackson, Ms. Posts: 350 Likes: 183 Liked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noob question Larry Stewart Jr./Sr. run their '67 Chevy II 327/275 in F and G the last couple of years. __________________ #4892 J/SA. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.” - Aristotle

01-04-2012, 09:41 AM	#7
JeffM Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 142 Likes: 118 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Noob question The 1966 327 automatic supersport trim cars fall into H. The non supersport 2 door coupe falls into G. 1967 327 automatic supersport trim and non supersport 2 doors both fall into G. Either can go up or down a class. __________________ Jeff Myers SS3254 S1522

01-04-2012, 10:17 AM	#8
Ron Middleton Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Jackson, Ms. Posts: 350 Likes: 183 Liked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Noob question The Chevy II that Larry and son run is a '67. Class guide lists it: NOVA SS Auto Stick Coupe 2 Dr (Sport) 9.28 9.53 S/SS Factor 275/307 275/299 w OEM heads Making it a natural G car SS/G 9.00-9.49 and since you can move up or down a class it will also make F and H. __________________ #4892 J/SA. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.” - Aristotle

01-04-2012, 11:15 AM	#9
SS/GSI Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 292 Likes: 79 Liked 759 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Noob question The 327/275 hp combo in an automatic is factored @ 307 in an automatic and 299 in a stick. Larry jr. has a '67 SS; however he uses a replacement head which believe it or not is only rated @ 304 due to the fact that the extra 5hp added for replacement head is only since the rule was implemented which the combination was at 299! A little crazy to comprehend but correct. Cars that run F stick or auto are usually post cars due to them being physically lighter. Larry might run F; however I can guarantee he's not even close to minimum! A '66 or '67 SS fits G with some hard work on lightening the car but will easily get to minimum in H with minimal and properly placed ballast. Any way you put it these models are in the top 5 all time for true SS'ers. Stick or Auto, cool either way!