info on caltracs and tire?

bigdaddy4026 · 03-16-2012, 06:01 PM

hi! i have not raced in 15+ years

have been jr racing with my son for 5 years, so i have a few questions

i found a stock suspension 1967 camaro with a fiberglass front cap,that i am building for my son (and i get to get in till he is old enough

), trying to start with suspension and work my way up, it will be set up with a
12 &1/2 to 1- 355 small block , th350, 8inch converter( the 1st owner said 5300 stall

), 488 gear,

looking to see what size rear tire should i run (30x9?)

i really don't want his 1st car to leave as high as you guys

,so can i use caltracs (or something similar) to keep it down and still be consistant

thanks for any imput at all (good or bad)

Tod Lane · 03-16-2012, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdaddy4026

hi! i have not raced in 15+ years

have been jr racing with my son for 5 years, so i have a few questions

i found a stock suspension 1967 camaro with a fiberglass front cap,that i am building for my son (and i get to get in till he is old enough

), trying to start with suspension and work my way up, it will be set up with a
12 &1/2 to 1- 355 small block , th350, 8inch converter( the 1st owner said 5300 stall

), 488 gear,

looking to see what size rear tire should i run (30x9?)

i really don't want his 1st car to leave as high as you guys

,so can i use caltracs (or something similar) to keep it down and still be consistant

thanks for any imput at all (good or bad)

Why would Cal tracs keep it down?
To be consistant you need to hook...
The wheelstands can be controled with shocks in the front generally speaking. Or wheelie bars if needed.
How big a tie will ft under the car? What rpm are you wanting to trap at?

bigdaddy4026 · 03-19-2012, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod Lane

Why would Cal tracs keep it down?
To be consistant you need to hook...
The wheelstands can be controled with shocks in the front generally speaking. Or wheelie bars if needed.
How big a tie will ft under the car? What rpm are you wanting to trap at?

well i dont have alot of answers because the car doesnt run and has not ran in 18+ years,

someone said with the caltracks you can adjust how high it comes up, personaly i dont have a clue , just looking for answers, and to see how other people set there cars up

i posted this to see what size tires to put on the car , i was thinking 30x9 but i really dont know if that would fit.

i just dont want my son to leave with the wheels 2 to 3 feet in the air , i have seen some trans blankets from the fence and though its pretty i dont think a new driver (no seat time) should start that high

Steve Hayward · 03-19-2012, 10:17 AM

Talk to these guys................

Scott Helms

sales@southlandspeed.com

parts@southlandspeed.com

3729 West Park Avenue
Gray, LA 70359
(985) 580-9701
or Toll Free
866-580-RACE (7223)
Fax (985) 580-9705

bigdaddy4026 · 03-21-2012, 08:24 AM

thanks mr. steve, i have talked to scott alittle about the car ( he wanted to buy it lol) and i talked to kevin alittle. i was just trying to get some ideas, i think 30x9 will fit looks like it will be close

cad · 03-21-2012, 01:27 PM

Measure and then re-measure to ensure your rear end is PERFECTLY centered in the rear wheel opening, or I'm not sure that you will be able to fit a 30x9. If you do have room for a 30x9, it will need to be a radial slick. A bias slick will grow.
I had one Hoosier 30x9 radial mounted on my spare Weld wheel. It fit on one side, but not the other. When we replaced the rear end, we had to move the center pin locating hole to square up the rear in my car.
I now have the 29x9 bias Hoosier on mine with a 15x8 wheel with 4.75 backspace (.25 spacer).

Clark

bigdaddy4026 · 03-21-2012, 05:05 PM

thanks cad thats what i was looking for thanks for repling to my thread,

i didnt want to buy a set of tires new to set up the car, by the way your car looks awesome!!

Grant Eldridge · 03-21-2012, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cad

Measure and then re-measure to ensure your rear end is PERFECTLY centered in the rear wheel opening, or I'm not sure that you will be able to fit a 30x9. If you do have room for a 30x9, it will need to be a radial slick. A bias slick will grow.
I had one Hoosier 30x9 radial mounted on my spare Weld wheel. It fit on one side, but not the other. When we replaced the rear end, we had to move the center pin locating hole to square up the rear in my car.
I now have the 29x9 bias Hoosier on mine with a 15x8 wheel with 4.75 backspace (.25 spacer).

Clark

x2 We had to also move the rear end locating holes on our '67 Camaro, and also "massage' the inner wheel wells where they are closest to the section width of the tire. Our outer wheelwell lips are stock, not rolled, so it was very tight everywhere, but we do run the 30x9 Hoosier radials and a 5.5" backspaced 15x10" rim with a small spacer. Pretty close at the front too, but seems to not rub with the radials. I would also not suggest this size in a bias tire due to growth, just my 2 cents....
Grant

bigdaddy4026 · 03-22-2012, 06:42 PM

thanks grant,
some is suppost to bring me some used hoosier 30x9 radials tonight to try, i will mount them and check center.

i really hope they fit

Kegracing · 03-31-2012, 09:53 AM

Good to see a parent getting back in a car (even if just for a while) and keeping our kids in the sport! Here are some suggestions to get a simple but consistant car back together, without breaking the bank. Make the car work, even if not the fastest for now, and it will be more fun to race and learn with... Not having to fight a dial in is worth a lot!
As you are just trying to get this thing back running, and it will be a bracket car, I would look at the Mickey bias tires. Lots of sizes out there, cheaper than radials, last much longer, and will hook better on a lose track or with a suspension that is not maxed yet...
Lot of people run the 10.5x28 on an 8" rim, with 4.5 back space. Wheels are easy to find used, will fit without having to "exact measure" the rear end in the wheel well, etc.
I have a 67 Firebird stocker, and I have radials, different wheels, etc. While for stock it is pretty much a requirement, for bracket racing, no so much.
I recommend the Caltrac's. Call them, and they can set you up with a good package that will last. Their bars, rancho rear shocks, and their front shocks will make your "stock" suspension work well. Again, lets make the car consistent, and hook. Calvert has great tech support, along with a ton of racers on here that will help. They do have adjustments to keep the car down, it is starts wheel standing. Best part, no matter how hard you want to run it later, the Caltrac setup will grow with you... some of the fastest stockers and a few super stockers in the country are running their stuff.
One other suggestion for now. Put a glide in it instead of the th350. One less gear change to worry about. Will make the car leave a little easier too. If you use a turbo input, you can use the same converter, and its same overall length, so just change yoke on your drive shaft and you are good. Again, can do this stuff without breaking the bank, and have a much easier to drive and consistent car.
Good luck and let us know how it goes!

03-16-2012, 06:01 PM	#1
bigdaddy4026 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: down on the bayou! louisiana Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	info on caltracs and tire? hi! i have not raced in 15+ years have been jr racing with my son for 5 years, so i have a few questions i found a stock suspension 1967 camaro with a fiberglass front cap,that i am building for my son (and i get to get in till he is old enough), trying to start with suspension and work my way up, it will be set up with a 12 &1/2 to 1- 355 small block , th350, 8inch converter( the 1st owner said 5300 stall), 488 gear, looking to see what size rear tire should i run (30x9?) i really don't want his 1st car to leave as high as you guys ,so can i use caltracs (or something similar) to keep it down and still be consistant thanks for any imput at all (good or bad)

03-19-2012, 10:17 AM	#4
Steve Hayward Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 39 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: info on caltracs and tire? Talk to these guys................ Scott Helms sales@southlandspeed.com parts@southlandspeed.com 3729 West Park Avenue Gray, LA 70359 (985) 580-9701 or Toll Free 866-580-RACE (7223) Fax (985) 580-9705

03-21-2012, 08:24 AM	#5
bigdaddy4026 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: down on the bayou! louisiana Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: info on caltracs and tire? thanks mr. steve, i have talked to scott alittle about the car ( he wanted to buy it lol) and i talked to kevin alittle. i was just trying to get some ideas, i think 30x9 will fit looks like it will be close

03-21-2012, 01:27 PM	#6
cad Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 702 Likes: 202 Liked 91 Times in 51 Posts	Re: info on caltracs and tire? Measure and then re-measure to ensure your rear end is PERFECTLY centered in the rear wheel opening, or I'm not sure that you will be able to fit a 30x9. If you do have room for a 30x9, it will need to be a radial slick. A bias slick will grow. I had one Hoosier 30x9 radial mounted on my spare Weld wheel. It fit on one side, but not the other. When we replaced the rear end, we had to move the center pin locating hole to square up the rear in my car. I now have the 29x9 bias Hoosier on mine with a 15x8 wheel with 4.75 backspace (.25 spacer). Clark

03-21-2012, 05:05 PM	#7
bigdaddy4026 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: down on the bayou! louisiana Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: info on caltracs and tire? thanks cad thats what i was looking for thanks for repling to my thread, i didnt want to buy a set of tires new to set up the car, by the way your car looks awesome!!

03-22-2012, 06:42 PM	#9
bigdaddy4026 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: down on the bayou! louisiana Posts: 97 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: info on caltracs and tire? thanks grant, some is suppost to bring me some used hoosier 30x9 radials tonight to try, i will mount them and check center. i really hope they fit

03-31-2012, 09:53 AM	#10
Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: info on caltracs and tire? Good to see a parent getting back in a car (even if just for a while) and keeping our kids in the sport! Here are some suggestions to get a simple but consistant car back together, without breaking the bank. Make the car work, even if not the fastest for now, and it will be more fun to race and learn with... Not having to fight a dial in is worth a lot! As you are just trying to get this thing back running, and it will be a bracket car, I would look at the Mickey bias tires. Lots of sizes out there, cheaper than radials, last much longer, and will hook better on a lose track or with a suspension that is not maxed yet... Lot of people run the 10.5x28 on an 8" rim, with 4.5 back space. Wheels are easy to find used, will fit without having to "exact measure" the rear end in the wheel well, etc. I have a 67 Firebird stocker, and I have radials, different wheels, etc. While for stock it is pretty much a requirement, for bracket racing, no so much. I recommend the Caltrac's. Call them, and they can set you up with a good package that will last. Their bars, rancho rear shocks, and their front shocks will make your "stock" suspension work well. Again, lets make the car consistent, and hook. Calvert has great tech support, along with a ton of racers on here that will help. They do have adjustments to keep the car down, it is starts wheel standing. Best part, no matter how hard you want to run it later, the Caltrac setup will grow with you... some of the fastest stockers and a few super stockers in the country are running their stuff. One other suggestion for now. Put a glide in it instead of the th350. One less gear change to worry about. Will make the car leave a little easier too. If you use a turbo input, you can use the same converter, and its same overall length, so just change yoke on your drive shaft and you are good. Again, can do this stuff without breaking the bank, and have a much easier to drive and consistent car. Good luck and let us know how it goes!