Seriously Guys!

Jim Wahl · 12-20-2018, 02:09 AM

I would love to partake in the NMCA races but.... why oh why do they insist on scheduling their race (at least in Florida) on the same weekend as the D2 Points Race!! ( Baby Gators) This is the same thing they have done for three years now! Both tracks are NHRA (Bradenton & Gainesville) and are about 150 miles apart. For the life of me I can't figure this out. I have even emailed the NMCA powers that be with and asked with no reply. Opinions? Jim

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Adger Smith · 12-20-2018, 02:42 AM

Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but the only real cross over classes between NMCA and NHRA are the Stock/SS classes.
So Seriously Jim, why should NMCA reschedule a race for that small conflict?

Jim Bailey · 12-20-2018, 10:46 AM

The weather is usually much better in Bradenton. Bradenton's track, for the most part, ( at least on the first day - for sure ) is usually much better than G'ville. Even though the NMCA Stk/SS Cars, and Drivers are high quality, the Car Count in Bradenton is far less than G'ville. The entry fee is cheaper at Bradenton. The payout is higher in Bradenton. So solely based on the fact that it never, ever rains in G'ville, I'd probably go to Gainesville. The cool aid tastes much better.

Nmbr1GMfan · 12-20-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

The weather is usually much better in Bradenton. Bradenton's track, for the most part, ( at least on the first day - for sure ) is usually much better than G'ville. Even though the NMCA Stk/SS Cars, and Drivers are high quality, the Car Count in Bradenton is far less than G'ville. The entry fee is cheaper at Bradenton. The payout is higher in Bradenton. So solely based on the fact that it never, ever rains in G'ville, I'd probably go to Gainesville. The cool aid tastes much better.

I think Jim Wahl is trying to figure a way so both can be run so that choice doesn't have to be made.

Jim Bailey · 12-20-2018, 11:27 AM

It's a little bit of a gamble because of the G'ville weather, but if you're serious, qualify at Bradenton on Friday, load up and go to G'ville. Run the NHRA race on Saturday. Come back to Bradenton for Sunday Eliminations. Ten or Fifteen years ago, that's what I'd have done. Today … not so much....On a different note, suppose the race in Bradenton was an IHRA National Event? How would that effect your choices? The fact is … there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for NMCA to change the date of their event.

Mark Yacavone · 12-20-2018, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bailey

It's a little bit of a gamble because of the G'ville weather, but if you're serious, qualify at Bradenton on Friday, load up and go to G'ville. Run the NHRA race on Saturday. Come back to Bradenton for Sunday Eliminations. Ten or Fifteen years ago, that's what I'd have done. Today … not so much....On a different note, suppose the race in Bradenton was an IHRA National Event? How would that effect your choices? The fact is … there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for NMCA to change the date of their event.

Things might have changed, but this is how I remember NMCA.
Lots of flat out classes with maybe a dozen or less cars in them. Then there was Nostalgia Super Stock and Nost . Muscle Cars..Both breakout classes with far and away more participation than the aforementioned .
To me , if you could bring in 20-30 more S/SS cars and crew members and fans, that would be a reason to consider using a different date.
Just sayin'.

Coleydog · 12-20-2018, 03:45 PM

I would think they would run on different weekends, better chance of getting more cars (more money) to both races or is every weekend taken down there? Tracks Just shooting themselves in the foot IMO.
Mike

Mike Pearson · 12-20-2018, 05:39 PM

Common sense says NMCA would not schedule on top of the local NHRA event. NHRA is the premier series. I would also like to run the NMCA race in Bradenton but that is the only race that they have near me. they would probably double their car count if they did it on a different weekend than NHRA

Jim Bailey · 12-20-2018, 08:56 PM

I've run every NHRA Div 3 points meet. I've run every NHRA Div 2 points meet. I ran every IHRA National event on their schedule for ten years straight, and I ran every NMCA race the first year they offered Stk/SS..... What's my point ? ...It's not the sanctioning's bodies job to work their schedules around us. You have the right to chose where you're gonna race, or not race at all. As a sportsman / hobby racer, I pick the "best deal" for my race weekends. If there was a conflicting race, I looked for an out of division race to fill up my quota. Granted, I'm not chasing the NHRA Div Points Championship, or the NHRA National Championship. If you are, then you already know where you're gonna race, If you're not, then choose the races that fit your needs, budget and schedule. ( News flash : Nether NHRA or NMCA needs Stk/SS to survive ). NHRA Div 2 will continue to schedule their Baby Gators on rainy 30 degree weekends in early March, and NMCA will continue to schedule their season opener in sunny warmer Bradenton, with full qualified fields in every category, including 20 - 30 Factory Shoot Out Stockers, in front of bleachers full of spectators, (just like the Gainesville points meet), even the NMCA Stk/SS car count doubled from the first to second year. I agree, One of them should change their race date. But, it's probably not NMCA. And I'm guessing NHRA isn't changing their race date. Why would they? So, take your pick.

B/S 428 · 12-20-2018, 10:16 PM

I look at it a little differently, and feel that we are lucky to have different options/places to race, obviously weather/rain is always an issue so there is always a plan B if it's raining at plan A...

12-20-2018, 02:09 AM	#1
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,843 Likes: 663 Liked 682 Times in 128 Posts	Seriously Guys! I would love to partake in the NMCA races but.... why oh why do they insist on scheduling their race (at least in Florida) on the same weekend as the D2 Points Race!! ( Baby Gators) This is the same thing they have done for three years now! Both tracks are NHRA (Bradenton & Gainesville) and are about 150 miles apart. For the life of me I can't figure this out. I have even emailed the NMCA powers that be with and asked with no reply. Opinions? Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

12-20-2018, 02:42 AM	#2
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Seriously Guys! Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but the only real cross over classes between NMCA and NHRA are the Stock/SS classes. So Seriously Jim, why should NMCA reschedule a race for that small conflict? __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 12-20-2018 at 02:44 AM. Reason: add

12-20-2018, 10:46 AM	#3
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 673 Likes: 15 Liked 547 Times in 93 Posts	Re: Seriously Guys! The weather is usually much better in Bradenton. Bradenton's track, for the most part, ( at least on the first day - for sure ) is usually much better than G'ville. Even though the NMCA Stk/SS Cars, and Drivers are high quality, the Car Count in Bradenton is far less than G'ville. The entry fee is cheaper at Bradenton. The payout is higher in Bradenton. So solely based on the fact that it never, ever rains in G'ville, I'd probably go to Gainesville. The cool aid tastes much better.

12-20-2018, 11:27 AM	#5
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 673 Likes: 15 Liked 547 Times in 93 Posts	Re: Seriously Guys! It's a little bit of a gamble because of the G'ville weather, but if you're serious, qualify at Bradenton on Friday, load up and go to G'ville. Run the NHRA race on Saturday. Come back to Bradenton for Sunday Eliminations. Ten or Fifteen years ago, that's what I'd have done. Today … not so much....On a different note, suppose the race in Bradenton was an IHRA National Event? How would that effect your choices? The fact is … there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for NMCA to change the date of their event.

12-20-2018, 03:45 PM	#7
Coleydog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 569 Likes: 36 Liked 50 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Seriously Guys! I would think they would run on different weekends, better chance of getting more cars (more money) to both races or is every weekend taken down there? Tracks Just shooting themselves in the foot IMO. Mike

12-20-2018, 05:39 PM	#8
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,417 Likes: 597 Liked 1,880 Times in 562 Posts	Re: Seriously Guys! Common sense says NMCA would not schedule on top of the local NHRA event. NHRA is the premier series. I would also like to run the NMCA race in Bradenton but that is the only race that they have near me. they would probably double their car count if they did it on a different weekend than NHRA __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

12-20-2018, 08:56 PM	#9
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 673 Likes: 15 Liked 547 Times in 93 Posts	Re: Seriously Guys! I've run every NHRA Div 3 points meet. I've run every NHRA Div 2 points meet. I ran every IHRA National event on their schedule for ten years straight, and I ran every NMCA race the first year they offered Stk/SS..... What's my point ? ...It's not the sanctioning's bodies job to work their schedules around us. You have the right to chose where you're gonna race, or not race at all. As a sportsman / hobby racer, I pick the "best deal" for my race weekends. If there was a conflicting race, I looked for an out of division race to fill up my quota. Granted, I'm not chasing the NHRA Div Points Championship, or the NHRA National Championship. If you are, then you already know where you're gonna race, If you're not, then choose the races that fit your needs, budget and schedule. ( News flash : Nether NHRA or NMCA needs Stk/SS to survive ). NHRA Div 2 will continue to schedule their Baby Gators on rainy 30 degree weekends in early March, and NMCA will continue to schedule their season opener in sunny warmer Bradenton, with full qualified fields in every category, including 20 - 30 Factory Shoot Out Stockers, in front of bleachers full of spectators, (just like the Gainesville points meet), even the NMCA Stk/SS car count doubled from the first to second year. I agree, One of them should change their race date. But, it's probably not NMCA. And I'm guessing NHRA isn't changing their race date. Why would they? So, take your pick.

12-20-2018, 10:16 PM	#10
B/S 428 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 87 Likes: 18 Liked 152 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Seriously Guys! I look at it a little differently, and feel that we are lucky to have different options/places to race, obviously weather/rain is always an issue so there is always a plan B if it's raining at plan A...