Can You Help Me Find This?

Bobby Fazio · 02-21-2019, 11:19 AM

A 58 tooth timing wet belt-in-oil, 3/4" wide. I believe it came off a SVO Mustang in the 80s? Been trying to see who made them for Ford and if I can find some anywhere. Been trying to contact Gates to see if they made them back in the day but no response yet. Googling these numbers hasn't gotten me anywhere. Thanks in advance.

E6ZM 6268 T302 05ou

rawhide · 02-21-2019, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fazio

A 58 tooth timing wet belt-in-oil, 3/4" wide. I believe it came off a SVO Mustang in the 80s? Been trying to see who made them for Ford and if I can find some anywhere. Been trying to contact Gates to see if they made them back in the day but no response yet. Googling these numbers hasn't gotten me anywhere. Thanks in advance.

E6ZM 6268 T302 05ou

Bobby,

I doubt that this has anything to do with a SVO Mustang as they were 2300's with a dry cam drive belt. The is an old belt from a belt drive timing gear set that Ford Motorsport sold for the 289-302-351W that ran in oil. The belt part number for it is M-6268-T302 as seen on the belt. I do not remember the number for the complete belt drive kit, just the belt itself. I do not know of anyone who used one so I do not know how reliable they were.

best regards,
Roland

Bobby Lundholm · 02-21-2019, 01:25 PM

According to Ford I did a search and that belt is obsolete from them. Here is the old part number if that helps you: E5ZZ-6268-A
The number you have on the belt is an engineering number.

FED 387 · 02-21-2019, 01:39 PM

Dayco made that belt

Timetraveler · 02-21-2019, 03:17 PM

This may help!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-198...d=182197368675

Mark Lewis · 02-21-2019, 05:05 PM

The old Ford number interchanges to a Dayco #95014 Check with a local jobber or Advance Auto carries Dayco products

Mark Ugrich · 02-21-2019, 07:57 PM

Bobby, At the risk of dating myself...I found one of my old SVO catalogs.”The camshaft drive system “ as it was called was PN M-6268-U302. The listed part number for the replacement belt was M-6268-S351.
I talked to Alex Denysenko about this setup at one time. He said almost nobody used it. Alex thought the belt was a weak spot being that it ran in oil.I would think it’d help harmonics and possibly free up some parasitic horsepower, but so would a jesel belt drive. Hope this helps.

FED 387 · 02-21-2019, 08:21 PM

Do a little research on BIO ( belt in oil)belts -used by many manufacturers both in European and Domestic engines --- how well it will work in a hi rpm application I don't know further research would be necessary

SSDiv6 · 02-21-2019, 10:39 PM

Bobby,
I have one of the timing belt setups.
Sometime ago I did the research for the replacement belt since the numbering system, as it is for bearings and seals, is an SAE specification.
There are industrial belts that will work as a replacement. Also, there are belts designed under the numbering system to work immersed in hot oil.

Bobby Fazio · 02-22-2019, 08:26 AM

Thank you all for your help that is why I love this site. So it turns out it was definitely not from the 2300 SVO which is a much longer and dry belt. But rather this was a “competition” upgrade from chain to belt. The part number M-6268-T302 is the belt for the M-6268-U302 kit. Obsolete indeed but would be nice to know if Dayco or Gates could still crank one out. Ran it on my super stocker for 9 years believe it or not.

02-21-2019, 11:19 AM	#1
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,466 Likes: 1,439 Liked 4,361 Times in 500 Posts	Can You Help Me Find This? A 58 tooth timing wet belt-in-oil, 3/4" wide. I believe it came off a SVO Mustang in the 80s? Been trying to see who made them for Ford and if I can find some anywhere. Been trying to contact Gates to see if they made them back in the day but no response yet. Googling these numbers hasn't gotten me anywhere. Thanks in advance. E6ZM 6268 T302 05ou Attached Thumbnails __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com Last edited by Bobby Fazio; 02-21-2019 at 11:45 AM.

02-21-2019, 01:25 PM	#3
Bobby Lundholm Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlevoix, MI Posts: 449 Likes: 110 Liked 118 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Can You Help Me Find This? According to Ford I did a search and that belt is obsolete from them. Here is the old part number if that helps you: E5ZZ-6268-A The number you have on the belt is an engineering number. __________________ Bobby Lundholm 3516 G/SA

02-21-2019, 01:39 PM	#4
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,410 Likes: 507 Liked 329 Times in 177 Posts	Re: Can You Help Me Find This? Dayco made that belt

02-21-2019, 03:17 PM	#5
Timetraveler Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 103 Likes: 79 Liked 12 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Can You Help Me Find This? This may help! https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OEM-198...d=182197368675

02-21-2019, 05:05 PM	#6
Mark Lewis Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 344 Likes: 63 Liked 207 Times in 44 Posts	Re: Can You Help Me Find This? The old Ford number interchanges to a Dayco #95014 Check with a local jobber or Advance Auto carries Dayco products

02-21-2019, 07:57 PM	#7
Mark Ugrich Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Auburndale,Florida Posts: 220 Likes: 29 Liked 71 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Can You Help Me Find This? Bobby, At the risk of dating myself...I found one of my old SVO catalogs.”The camshaft drive system “ as it was called was PN M-6268-U302. The listed part number for the replacement belt was M-6268-S351. I talked to Alex Denysenko about this setup at one time. He said almost nobody used it. Alex thought the belt was a weak spot being that it ran in oil.I would think it’d help harmonics and possibly free up some parasitic horsepower, but so would a jesel belt drive. Hope this helps.

02-21-2019, 08:21 PM	#8
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,410 Likes: 507 Liked 329 Times in 177 Posts	Re: Can You Help Me Find This? Do a little research on BIO ( belt in oil)belts -used by many manufacturers both in European and Domestic engines --- how well it will work in a hi rpm application I don't know further research would be necessary

02-21-2019, 10:39 PM	#9
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,036 Likes: 710 Liked 1,538 Times in 575 Posts	Re: Can You Help Me Find This? Bobby, I have one of the timing belt setups. Sometime ago I did the research for the replacement belt since the numbering system, as it is for bearings and seals, is an SAE specification. There are industrial belts that will work as a replacement. Also, there are belts designed under the numbering system to work immersed in hot oil.

02-22-2019, 08:26 AM	#10
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,466 Likes: 1,439 Liked 4,361 Times in 500 Posts	Re: Can You Help Me Find This? Thank you all for your help that is why I love this site. So it turns out it was definitely not from the 2300 SVO which is a much longer and dry belt. But rather this was a “competition” upgrade from chain to belt. The part number M-6268-T302 is the belt for the M-6268-U302 kit. Obsolete indeed but would be nice to know if Dayco or Gates could still crank one out. Ran it on my super stocker for 9 years believe it or not. __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com