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Billy Nees · 10-01-2022, 09:56 AM

Is an MSD grid a data logger?

Mike Jones · 10-01-2022, 11:16 AM

Billy Nees · 10-01-2022, 11:35 AM

Interesting....................................... .............

Correct me if I have gotten some wrong information but can you LEGALLY have a "data logger" connected to your "ignition system"?

Mike Jones · 10-01-2022, 11:46 AM

He explicitly said legal from Stock to TAFC. I was surprised to hear that. Data recorders permitted according to Rulebook (Section11A, pg12, Support Group 9)

Mark Yacavone · 10-01-2022, 12:02 PM

? Two..What are the various components shown on the tabletop?

? Three...Can the Grid correct real time information to a pre-programmed run? (asking for a friend)

Billy Nees · 10-01-2022, 12:41 PM

Ummmm,
General Regulations; 9:2 Data Recorders
Sentence #1; Data recorders may be used to record functions of a vehicle
so long as they do not activate any function on the vehicle.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but aren't spark timing and timing retard "functions of the vehicle?

Sentence #4; Fifth-wheel sensing devices prohibited on all vehicles.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a driveshaft sensor be considered a "fifth-wheel sensing device"? And even if it's not, when did they become legal?

I think that the Tech Dept. should re-read General Regulations section 9:1 and 9:2 before it makes any determinations regarding what it allows some of it's sponsors to sell to the Racers!

SSDiv6 · 10-01-2022, 12:43 PM

https://www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-s...grid-features/

It says:

Program a specific timing action at any point or range during a run to control conditions you have identified by feel or via data logging.

Program time or gear based rev limits throughout the run to prevent an overrev from tire spin or even a missed shift.

Mark Yacavone · 10-01-2022, 01:09 PM

? whatever..
Are any of the 9 and 10 second factory / experimental using drive by wire throttle?

B Parker · 10-01-2022, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ummmm,
General Regulations; 9:2 Data Recorders
Sentence #1; Data recorders may be used to record functions of a vehicle
so long as they do not activate any function on the vehicle.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but aren't spark timing and timing retard "functions of the vehicle?

Sentence #4; Fifth-wheel sensing devices prohibited on all vehicles.

Again, correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a driveshaft sensor be considered a "fifth-wheel sensing device"? And even if it's not, when did they become legal?

I think that the Tech Dept. should re-read General Regulations section 9:1 and 9:2 before it makes any determinations regarding what it allows some of it's sponsors to sell to the Racers!

Billy I have a grid and the data logger does not control any of the functions. You have to program the functions into the grid. Not because I use one but that is how would interpret it. BP

Mike Jones · 10-01-2022, 04:29 PM

This cats out of the bag already. MSD will add features/upgrades to their products. Why would NHRA stop them? A Rulebook gray area...

10-01-2022, 11:16 AM	#2
Mike Jones VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,125 Likes: 1,179 Liked 684 Times in 289 Posts	Re: ? of the day

10-01-2022, 11:35 AM	#3
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,487 Likes: 3,588 Liked 7,688 Times in 1,732 Posts	Re: ? of the day Interesting....................................... ............. Correct me if I have gotten some wrong information but can you LEGALLY have a "data logger" connected to your "ignition system"? __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

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Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,814 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,118 Times in 1,950 Posts	Re: ? of the day ? Two..What are the various components shown on the tabletop? ? Three...Can the Grid correct real time information to a pre-programmed run? (asking for a friend) __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers Last edited by Mark Yacavone; 10-01-2022 at 05:22 PM.

10-01-2022, 12:41 PM	#6
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,487 Likes: 3,588 Liked 7,688 Times in 1,732 Posts	Re: ? of the day Ummmm, General Regulations; 9:2 Data Recorders Sentence #1; Data recorders may be used to record functions of a vehicle so long as they do not activate any function on the vehicle. Now correct me if I'm wrong but aren't spark timing and timing retard "functions of the vehicle? Sentence #4; Fifth-wheel sensing devices prohibited on all vehicles. Again, correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a driveshaft sensor be considered a "fifth-wheel sensing device"? And even if it's not, when did they become legal? I think that the Tech Dept. should re-read General Regulations section 9:1 and 9:2 before it makes any determinations regarding what it allows some of it's sponsors to sell to the Racers! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

10-01-2022, 12:43 PM	#7
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,043 Likes: 712 Liked 1,577 Times in 581 Posts	Re: ? of the day https://www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-s...grid-features/ It says: Program a specific timing action at any point or range during a run to control conditions you have identified by feel or via data logging. Program time or gear based rev limits throughout the run to prevent an overrev from tire spin or even a missed shift.

10-01-2022, 09:56 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,487 Likes: 3,588 Liked 7,688 Times in 1,732 Posts	? of the day Is an MSD grid a data logger? __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

10-01-2022, 11:46 AM	#4
Mike Jones VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,125 Likes: 1,179 Liked 684 Times in 289 Posts	Re: ? of the day He explicitly said legal from Stock to TAFC. I was surprised to hear that. Data recorders permitted according to Rulebook (Section11A, pg12, Support Group 9) Last edited by Mike Jones; 10-01-2022 at 11:56 AM.

10-01-2022, 01:09 PM	#8
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,814 Likes: 2,903 Liked 5,118 Times in 1,950 Posts	Re: ? of the day ? whatever.. Are any of the 9 and 10 second factory / experimental using drive by wire throttle? __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

10-01-2022, 04:29 PM	#10
Mike Jones VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,125 Likes: 1,179 Liked 684 Times in 289 Posts	Re: ? of the day This cats out of the bag already. MSD will add features/upgrades to their products. Why would NHRA stop them? A Rulebook gray area... Last edited by Mike Jones; 10-01-2022 at 04:34 PM.