The mines are now closed (AHFS)

KRatcliff · 09-28-2022, 05:19 PM

https://www.nhraracer.com/content/ge...657&zoneid=132

NHRA announces Automatic Horsepower Factor System (AHFS) Changes for 2023
In an effort to bring Stock and Super Stock back to its grass roots of being performance-based eliminators, and lengthy discussions with Racers, the SRAC, the Stock/Super Stock Rules Committee and the Rules Review Panel; NHRA has made the following changes to the Automatic Horsepower Factoring system (AHFS) for 2023.

· All runs count for end of year average

· No automatic adjustments

· No mineshaft

And it appears the -1.20 or quicker isn't immediate anymore.

rboyle · 09-28-2022, 05:57 PM

I think this was a bad idea. But we'll see how it plays out. I think many more 1000' runs. Overall I think it hurts the classes

KRatcliff · 09-28-2022, 06:06 PM

I wonder if “All” really means all. Mathematically you could add back to your average if it was really “All.”

I expect an edit.

Eric Merryfield · 09-28-2022, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rboyle

I think this was a bad idea. But we'll see how it plays out. I think many more 1000' runs. Overall I think it hurts the classes

Very well could, am I reading it right that you can now go say 1.40 under and not be subject to hp till year end? Assuming of course that you go 1 under again, and can’t bring the average down under .849 by then. Could be interesting. Are those body weights still changing? I can’t recall what the deal was with those.

Eric

Billy Nees · 09-28-2022, 06:14 PM

Does this mean no more "gimmies" at Indy and Natl. Opens?

4543 · 09-28-2022, 06:21 PM

Does AllRuns mean opens too? Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

KRatcliff · 09-28-2022, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 4543

Does AllRuns mean opens too? Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

Depends on what part of the link you want to believe (or they choose to apply). First part says all runs, but further down it says certain runs don’t count including exempting National Opens.

Who knows.

J.R. Haddad · 09-28-2022, 06:58 PM

For as many years as this has been discussed, I find the timing very
interesting. Anybody else?

J.R.

Glenn Briglio · 09-28-2022, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KRatcliff

Depends on what part of the link you want to believe (or they choose to apply). First part says all runs, but further down it says certain runs don’t count including exempting National Opens.

Who knows.

All runs count even test and tune......really, a performance based eliminator? 1/8 mile et count? Who wants to go fast or set a record? A whole lotta brake pads being used next year !!!!!

Blackgar · 09-28-2022, 07:16 PM

Everybody wants to gripe about everything. Ya'll apparently didn't read the whole thing

No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review.

09-28-2022, 05:19 PM	#1
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 766 Likes: 75 Liked 524 Times in 141 Posts	The mines are now closed (AHFS) https://www.nhraracer.com/content/ge...657&zoneid=132 NHRA announces Automatic Horsepower Factor System (AHFS) Changes for 2023 In an effort to bring Stock and Super Stock back to its grass roots of being performance-based eliminators, and lengthy discussions with Racers, the SRAC, the Stock/Super Stock Rules Committee and the Rules Review Panel; NHRA has made the following changes to the Automatic Horsepower Factoring system (AHFS) for 2023. · All runs count for end of year average · No automatic adjustments · No mineshaft And it appears the -1.20 or quicker isn't immediate anymore. Last edited by KRatcliff; 09-28-2022 at 05:21 PM.

09-28-2022, 05:57 PM	#2
rboyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 604 Likes: 1,454 Liked 586 Times in 162 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) I think this was a bad idea. But we'll see how it plays out. I think many more 1000' runs. Overall I think it hurts the classes

09-28-2022, 06:06 PM	#3
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 766 Likes: 75 Liked 524 Times in 141 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) I wonder if “All” really means all. Mathematically you could add back to your average if it was really “All.” I expect an edit.

09-28-2022, 06:14 PM	#5
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,493 Likes: 3,595 Liked 7,710 Times in 1,738 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) Does this mean no more "gimmies" at Indy and Natl. Opens? __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-28-2022, 06:21 PM	#6
4543 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 640 Likes: 62 Liked 634 Times in 139 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) Does AllRuns mean opens too? Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

09-28-2022, 06:58 PM	#8
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 784 Likes: 936 Liked 1,464 Times in 307 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) For as many years as this has been discussed, I find the timing very interesting. Anybody else? J.R.

09-28-2022, 07:16 PM	#10
Blackgar Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio Posts: 119 Likes: 1 Liked 48 Times in 18 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) Everybody wants to gripe about everything. Ya'll apparently didn't read the whole thing No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review.