Oldsmobile people chime in

jamie2370 · 09-10-2023, 07:05 PM

Looking for some info. Perked some interest in a cutlass stocker. It is a BIW car, former Ray Head car. It has the 307 olds engine in it, 87/88 combo. Is that combo any good? I tried the 305 chevy combo in a malibu and it is SUPER expensive to get halfway competitive. Is the 307 any better. This car hasn't been raced in a long time as far as I can find. Any help is appreciated.

tstickff · 09-10-2023, 09:36 PM

It’s a very cool car and probably worth the effort of updating, but remember one thing that I noticed because I was also interested in this car, I’m pretty sure it’s a K,L,M combo, I could be wrong, but it doesn’t have a roll bar. The only way to race it immediately is put a bar in it because I dont think it will fit into N/SA….

Tim Stickles

Jeff Stout · 09-10-2023, 10:04 PM

I think Dave Irvan in Cottonwood Az raced a 307/138 in P. He blew it up pretty good and is building a 305 now. He feels its better and easier then the 307.
I also run the 307 as a 88 but in a Custom Cruiser wagon. First attempt I was 34 under. Redoing everything on motor as it was my fist time building one and made a couple hundred mistakes.

jamie2370 · 09-10-2023, 10:06 PM

He says its a flat tappet engine. Looks like 87 combo, JKL. He doesn't know what it runs and thats what I am trying to find out. 18k is steep for what could be a around 8-10k in updating

Mark Yacavone · 09-10-2023, 11:19 PM

Roller cam combo..The only way to go.
Tough, dependable engine.
Danny Lattimore did the engine for the one from NH. I did a couple converters for it, and consulted on the T 200 trans.
Been running good for YEARS..Hasn't slowed down yet.
Jeff, Give Dave a kick in the butt and tell him it's from me.
I don't see those flat tappet deals being a player in J,K,L

bill prince · 09-26-2023, 02:28 PM

Hi Bill Prince here, I had an 87 factory olds with factory T tops, my class was IJK. As an 88 with T tops it ran KLM. In the hydraulic cam is faster than a roller cam. In 2005 we went 1180 with it at 100mph shutting if off, winning class in Topeka. I went much quicker than that doing testing. In bracket modes 1170. Call me at 763-443-7428 in the daytime.

Terry Cain · 09-26-2023, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Roller cam combo..The only way to go.

NO $%#^
"don't see those flat tappet deals being a player in J,K,L"
Yeah, They at a disadvantage any class they run against the roller motor. LOL

Chip THELEGEND Johnson · 09-30-2023, 10:11 PM

We ran the 307 roller 88 model P/SA ran 12.50's in bracket mode.
I think 18 is a bit much but the car did belong to Ray Head who was an ICON in Stock Eliminator

09-10-2023, 07:05 PM	#1
jamie2370 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Perry, GA Posts: 331 Likes: 11 Liked 239 Times in 90 Posts	Oldsmobile people chime in Looking for some info. Perked some interest in a cutlass stocker. It is a BIW car, former Ray Head car. It has the 307 olds engine in it, 87/88 combo. Is that combo any good? I tried the 305 chevy combo in a malibu and it is SUPER expensive to get halfway competitive. Is the 307 any better. This car hasn't been raced in a long time as far as I can find. Any help is appreciated.

09-10-2023, 09:36 PM	#2
tstickff Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 465 Likes: 308 Liked 548 Times in 136 Posts	Re: Oldsmobile people chime in It’s a very cool car and probably worth the effort of updating, but remember one thing that I noticed because I was also interested in this car, I’m pretty sure it’s a K,L,M combo, I could be wrong, but it doesn’t have a roll bar. The only way to race it immediately is put a bar in it because I dont think it will fit into N/SA…. Tim Stickles __________________ Tim Stickles

09-10-2023, 10:04 PM	#3
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,484 Likes: 65 Liked 704 Times in 281 Posts	Re: Oldsmobile people chime in I think Dave Irvan in Cottonwood Az raced a 307/138 in P. He blew it up pretty good and is building a 305 now. He feels its better and easier then the 307. I also run the 307 as a 88 but in a Custom Cruiser wagon. First attempt I was 34 under. Redoing everything on motor as it was my fist time building one and made a couple hundred mistakes. Last edited by Jeff Stout; 09-10-2023 at 10:06 PM. Reason: More

09-10-2023, 10:06 PM	#4
jamie2370 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Perry, GA Posts: 331 Likes: 11 Liked 239 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Oldsmobile people chime in He says its a flat tappet engine. Looks like 87 combo, JKL. He doesn't know what it runs and thats what I am trying to find out. 18k is steep for what could be a around 8-10k in updating

09-10-2023, 11:19 PM	#5
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,786 Likes: 2,878 Liked 5,076 Times in 1,935 Posts	Re: Oldsmobile people chime in Roller cam combo..The only way to go. Tough, dependable engine. Danny Lattimore did the engine for the one from NH. I did a couple converters for it, and consulted on the T 200 trans. Been running good for YEARS..Hasn't slowed down yet. Jeff, Give Dave a kick in the butt and tell him it's from me. I don't see those flat tappet deals being a player in J,K,L __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

09-26-2023, 02:28 PM	#6
bill prince Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 11 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Oldsmobile people chime in Hi Bill Prince here, I had an 87 factory olds with factory T tops, my class was IJK. As an 88 with T tops it ran KLM. In the hydraulic cam is faster than a roller cam. In 2005 we went 1180 with it at 100mph shutting if off, winning class in Topeka. I went much quicker than that doing testing. In bracket modes 1170. Call me at 763-443-7428 in the daytime.

09-30-2023, 10:11 PM	#8
Chip THELEGEND Johnson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 284 Likes: 223 Liked 281 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Oldsmobile people chime in We ran the 307 roller 88 model P/SA ran 12.50's in bracket mode. I think 18 is a bit much but the car did belong to Ray Head who was an ICON in Stock Eliminator