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Old 06-07-2023, 03:44 PM   #1
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Car is a 327 Chevelle, Powerglide trans, Stock Eliminator type of thing, car broke on the line, engine runs fine, inspected differential for ring and pinion failure, no problem there, I suspect planetary or input shaft breakage. Does that type of parts failure break the converter as well? Years ago I broke an engine about 400 feet out, broken rod, that damaged the converter due to the sudden lock up of the engine. That didn't happen this time. Engine sounds OK. I haven't dismantled anything yet.

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Old 06-07-2023, 07:19 PM   #2
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Pull it and take it over to Leo. Powerglides are usually strong enough when built for racing. I ran one in my super-gas car for years without any issues.
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Old 06-07-2023, 08:09 PM   #3
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Doubtful it hurt the converter. You probably should have it flushed if there is a lot of metal in the pan. Most likely it broke the planetary set. Did it have stock or aftermarket planetary gears?
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Old 06-07-2023, 08:34 PM   #4
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Cool Re: Trans failure question...

Thanks for the replies. Leo is 15 minutes from here, this trans has probably hundreds of runs on it, I haven't tried to start it up and diagnose it, the car rolls nicely since today I took it out of the trailer and put it into the garage. I didn't check to see if it had high gear either. The car rolls without making strange noises so that is a good sign. Years ago,I had a '63 Chevy Bel Air 2 door post car with a 4.56 geared 12 bolt, a fairly stock 409/425 horse motor with a Glide. That car went 12.20's every place, the Glide never ever gave any issue, in fact,I still have it on the shelf, and if a 3450 pound bull moose like that didn't break the Glide, that meant that was the best thing going. There doesn't seem to be any bad noises coming from the trans in the Chevelle, just power going in and none coming out . Out it comes, and it goes to Leo.
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Old 06-07-2023, 11:33 PM   #5
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Inquiring minds want to know what went wrong, please share !
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Old 06-08-2023, 06:00 AM   #6
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Inquiring minds want to know what went wrong, please share !
Good morning to all,
You can break an input shaft and that won't make any noise while rolling the car. I stripped the splines out of the Alum. Hub in the High Drum and that didn't make any odd sounds either. Of course I ran it too many times ( the Alum hub ) and that's what gave up. In my last Glide I as cleaning everything to put back together when I discovered cracks in two of the three legs that connect the planetary to the face with the parking detents. That would have wrecked the whole unit if that went undetected. Also had countless street miles and will over 500 runs that I could count. You sometimes have to remove and inspect things - even when "nothing " is wrong. The stress and strain of racing will weaken parts. I would have the converter checked at this point, just my two cents.
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Old 06-18-2023, 09:47 PM   #7
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Got the trans out of the car. When I drained it and removed the pan, there is a good quantity of aluminum shrapnel in the pan.No large pieces, I don't know if it has an aluminum direct clutch hub, but it's getting a steel one this time around if it needs one. The input shaft doesn't seem to want to come out, but if the splines in the hub failed, that would account for the aluminum debris. The front pump drive lugs were all still there so further disassembly is next. At least now with the new flex plate rule coming in, this would be a good time to change that out as well.
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Old 06-19-2023, 01:46 PM   #9
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Hi gear clutch hub breakage does not keep low gear and reverse from working.
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What did you find?
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