A question?

Don Kennedy · 03-27-2008, 11:53 PM

a question?
While watching watching Barrett Jackson I was wondering .
What Would a 1969 Camero go for if the car was the Very first A/SA to show a 9 second run on the score boards and did a pan off Tear Down to prove legality complete with pictures (See Four Days in May Video), The very first 1969 Camaro AA/SA class to run in the Nines, the Very First 1969 Camaro to win Class , , the very first 1969 Camaro to set the national record at a 9:71 @ 134.24 mph and tore down to prove legality ?? Any Ideas????? $200,000 ? $300,00??

Gary Smith · 03-28-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

a question?
While watching watching Barrett Jackson I was wondering .
What Would a 1969 Camero go for if the car was the Very first A/SA to show a 9 second run on the score boards and did a pan off Tear Down to prove legality complete with pictures (See Four Days in May Video), The very first 1969 Camaro AA/SA class to run in the Nines, the Very First 1969 Camaro to win Class , , the very first 1969 Camaro to set the national record at a 9:71 @ 134.24 mph and tore down to prove legality ?? Any Ideas????? $200,000 ? $300,00??

Ask Matt Morgan. He and his dad walked away last year with piss-poor results. (BTW, did you see me on TV tonight? Was with that blonde chick

who bought the Yellow Ford Phaeton lot#62... Bob Varsha figured it was my wife....NOT!!)

Ed Sroka · 03-28-2008, 12:16 AM

Don,

These cars have very little value in terms of today's collector. Unless the Camaro has a significant intrinsic value based on it's originality or rarity, I would suspect the number would be far below your estimates. The irrational acceleration in value appreciated by Muscle Cars in general from the time period between the late 90's through 2005 has diminished dramatically. No market can sustain levels of growth of this magnitude for long periods. The housing market is another good example. Speculation drove the perceived values to levels that eliminated the core of the collector market. It's certainly a significant accomplishment, one which any one of us would have been proud to achieve. Unfortunately, I suspect it will not translate into a windfall for it's current owner.

Sincerely
Ed
Windy City Muscle Cars

Bruce Noland · 03-28-2008, 07:21 AM

For the record. I don't think the car will ever pass through BJ. And the owner has never mentioned such a large amount of money for his car.

Tim Kish · 03-28-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Smith

Ask Matt Morgan. He and his dad walked away last year with piss-poor results. (BTW, did you see me on TV tonight? Was with that blonde chick

who bought the Yellow Ford Phaeton lot#62... Bob Varsha figured it was my wife....NOT!!)

I saw that - didn't look like you thought she should buy it.

Don Kennedy · 03-28-2008, 10:45 AM

Bobby's car is not for sale yet until be retires when old age hits like the rest of us
After seeing some of the cars on barrett jackson being sold with some history behind them for a lot of money i was just wondering if Bobby's Car would ever be worth a lot because of it accomplishments, that no other cars have done.

Chevy454 · 03-28-2008, 11:37 AM

I know it's hard to believe, but Bobby's car would probably be worth more if it was put back to it's original Z/28 condition...I know, it's a screwy deal, and owning a 427/425hp car myself I've been a DeArmond fan from a distance for a while now. But a lot of the value seems to come from the "nostalgia"...the Briggs car was *the* car in SS/EA back in the day, was a concentrated bullseye for ChryCo, and was in print everywhere you turned...but most of all it started life as an LS6 convertible, which is a mega $$$ car to begin with.

Bobby & his car are certainly deserving, though, no doubt about it. Cool car, great history, just maybe a few decades too late...

Just my $0.02...

Chevy454 · 03-28-2008, 11:59 AM

Yes I did, $90k if I remember correctly...and I also watched Craig Jackson work his butt off to get to that number. And it was raced by the Professor of all people, one of the most recognizable names in drag racing...a decent price for that car, IMO.

I mean come one, it's a FIRENZA! LOL!!

Don Kennedy · 03-28-2008, 01:45 PM

What would it cost these days to build a 69 Camaro AA/SA Stocker class car? $30,000 ? A car that could run with DeArmonds ?? $100,000? Any idea

Chevy454 · 03-28-2008, 02:21 PM

It's a wacky thing...another "important" car (at least to racers), Grumpy's '74 Vega went for $525k at the '07 B-J. That's pretty big money...HUGE money, when you consider it's a Vega! LOL!!

03-27-2008, 11:53 PM	#1
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	A question? a question? While watching watching Barrett Jackson I was wondering . What Would a 1969 Camero go for if the car was the Very first A/SA to show a 9 second run on the score boards and did a pan off Tear Down to prove legality complete with pictures (See Four Days in May Video), The very first 1969 Camaro AA/SA class to run in the Nines, the Very First 1969 Camaro to win Class , , the very first 1969 Camaro to set the national record at a 9:71 @ 134.24 mph and tore down to prove legality ?? Any Ideas????? $200,000 ? $300,00?? __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

03-28-2008, 12:16 AM	#3
Ed Sroka Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lake Zurich, IL Posts: 22 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: A question? Don, These cars have very little value in terms of today's collector. Unless the Camaro has a significant intrinsic value based on it's originality or rarity, I would suspect the number would be far below your estimates. The irrational acceleration in value appreciated by Muscle Cars in general from the time period between the late 90's through 2005 has diminished dramatically. No market can sustain levels of growth of this magnitude for long periods. The housing market is another good example. Speculation drove the perceived values to levels that eliminated the core of the collector market. It's certainly a significant accomplishment, one which any one of us would have been proud to achieve. Unfortunately, I suspect it will not translate into a windfall for it's current owner. Sincerely Ed Windy City Muscle Cars

03-28-2008, 07:21 AM	#4
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: A question? For the record. I don't think the car will ever pass through BJ. And the owner has never mentioned such a large amount of money for his car. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

03-28-2008, 11:37 AM	#7
Chevy454 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Alton, Missouri Posts: 84 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A question? I know it's hard to believe, but Bobby's car would probably be worth more if it was put back to it's original Z/28 condition...I know, it's a screwy deal, and owning a 427/425hp car myself I've been a DeArmond fan from a distance for a while now. But a lot of the value seems to come from the "nostalgia"...the Briggs car was the car in SS/EA back in the day, was a concentrated bullseye for ChryCo, and was in print everywhere you turned...but most of all it started life as an LS6 convertible, which is a mega $$$ car to begin with. Bobby & his car are certainly deserving, though, no doubt about it. Cool car, great history, just maybe a few decades too late... Just my $0.02... __________________ 69 Pure/Stock Yenko Camaro 11.73 @ 118

03-28-2008, 11:59 AM	#8
Chevy454 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Alton, Missouri Posts: 84 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A question? Yes I did, $90k if I remember correctly...and I also watched Craig Jackson work his butt off to get to that number. And it was raced by the Professor of all people, one of the most recognizable names in drag racing...a decent price for that car, IMO. I mean come one, it's a FIRENZA! LOL!! __________________ 69 Pure/Stock Yenko Camaro 11.73 @ 118

03-28-2008, 10:45 AM	#6
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: A question? Bobby's car is not for sale yet until be retires when old age hits like the rest of us After seeing some of the cars on barrett jackson being sold with some history behind them for a lot of money i was just wondering if Bobby's Car would ever be worth a lot because of it accomplishments, that no other cars have done. __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

03-28-2008, 01:45 PM	#9
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: A question? What would it cost these days to build a 69 Camaro AA/SA Stocker class car? $30,000 ? A car that could run with DeArmonds ?? $100,000? Any idea __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS Last edited by Don Kennedy; 03-28-2008 at 01:49 PM.

03-28-2008, 02:21 PM	#10
Chevy454 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Alton, Missouri Posts: 84 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A question? It's a wacky thing...another "important" car (at least to racers), Grumpy's '74 Vega went for $525k at the '07 B-J. That's pretty big money...HUGE money, when you consider it's a Vega! LOL!! __________________ 69 Pure/Stock Yenko Camaro 11.73 @ 118 Last edited by Chevy454; 03-28-2008 at 02:29 PM.