Who all races with a V6?

Joe Toller · 01-17-2009, 10:03 PM

I asked about the inliners, with great response, so...who all on here races a V6, particularly the RWD guys? Just curious really....

David Lee · 01-18-2009, 12:05 AM

talk to Lane Weber here

rick lester · 01-18-2009, 02:30 AM

Any paticular brand your interested in? To be honest, this will be my first forta with a v6 myself. I am currently building a 91 Chevy S-10 4.3 motor with a manual trans. Why you ask? The biggest reason is I have it and its in the classification guide. Maybe not the best choice but with the people that I have talked to from here have been a HUGE help with all kinds of tidbits and guidance to keep me still interested in this combo. Not one person has talked me out of building it, even when I think I am way over my head. Believe me when I say this, it is no cheaper to build a v6 than a v8, at least with my combo. Still got to have a bulletproof 12 bolt under mine since I'm running a manual trans, so same price there as a v8 motor combo. Still got to have a reliable trans even with at the most 275 hp, 3.19 first gear aluminum case t-10 will work great with my combo but I will be upgrading to a jerico next year so still the same cost as a v8 combo. Some engine parts will be cheaper, maybe some machine work will be cheaper, but in the long run a v8, IN MY OPINION ONLY, would be a more econiminal way to go. Now don't read this as a discouragment in any way, just throwing out some plain facts that I have gathered since I have taken on this project. Hell some pieces are more expensive for my combo than a v8. For example, if I remember correctly, headers; 1 1/2 hedmans are under 200 but there 1 5/8 are over 400. If I was building a v8 car, almost everybody has an used set laying around that they will sell cheap. Now with that beening said, yes I am still building my S-10 for many reasons, one is as I mentioned earlier, two; I love the challenge. This is a t.b.i. system and I have heared of a few in the past using this system so I know it will work, but its still a big challenge to get it to run a second or more under the index (typing that last part with my fingers crossed). Third; other than bracket racing or the .90 classes, how often do you see a first gen. S-10? I know you didn't ask for my two cents but here it is anyway; race what YOU want to race. Do not in any way let anybody tell you not to do it your way. If you decide on a 4000+ pound barge with a straight 6, v6, or even a 4 banger, then do it. IN MY OPINION ONLY, the best part of owing a race car is building it yourself. Now I will get off my soapbox "cause I'm afraid of heights and I'm starting to get sick. lol . STOCKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick.

LNorton · 01-18-2009, 04:01 AM

231/100 in a 2002 Firebird

Joe Toller · 01-18-2009, 03:15 PM

Don't ever be afraid to get on the soapbox with me, I love to hear peoples thoughts and why they do what they do. The challenge and parity are what I love about Stock. I definitely want to build my own car, but I don't want a V8, I am so sick of small blocks after years of dirt cars. I am pretty much "leaning" towards a six, I just got this thought after a Lemans wagon with a 231 came through my shop this last week. I'm waiting on a rulebook to show up, so I can do more studying, but I have spent a ton of time documneting factors on cars, both that I have and can get rather easily. Keep up the input guys, I truly appreciate it all.

GarysZ24 · 01-19-2009, 08:34 PM

I also recommend Lane "The Hawk" Weber, for V6rwd talk. However, I race a fwd 173c.i. V6...I'm happy that I've enjoyed having a competitive car and not having to spend more than $5k on the engine work, plus the Accel Calmap software to bring out the power that Verle Stevens put in the motor...since my factory computer fought it, and thus a car that should've ran in the 16's instantly when it was built (04/96..yes 1996!), started out running 18.3's...the factory computer didn't like all of the legal mods done to the heads, and camshaft. The only sad part is that my car didn't run the index (or better, for it's first 3yrs), and it wasn't until the '99 MIle Highs (a race I loss the 3rd rd in by just .009), that the car was competitive. However my best break came 2yrs ago, when after years of begging, and the years 2000-2006, barely having a competitive car, NHRA finally dropped my horsepower factor down from the originally high 150, to a much more fair 130hp.

I hope you go with the Chevy 229, because it's 3/4's of a small block V8, so some of the parts (such as water pumps, et. al.,), could actually work on that motor that work on a V8? Thus the cost should be reasonable, however the V6 Buick has a big following as well, and with racers such as "The Hawk" out there keeping them on the map, that combo could be competitive in cost as well?

I agree with you about wanting something different, which is why all of my noteworthy racing experiences have been with V6, or 4cyl cars (except my 1973 Pontiac Ventura, and it's 350 poncho motor). Good Luck with whatever you decide to do, and you already have a fan from out west, because although I have my own car to race, I'll always root for the slower half of Stock Eliminators race cars (meaning those that actually run 13sec's and slower)!!!

01-17-2009, 10:03 PM	#1
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Who all races with a V6? I asked about the inliners, with great response, so...who all on here races a V6, particularly the RWD guys? Just curious really....

01-18-2009, 12:05 AM	#2
David Lee VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,168 Likes: 487 Liked 346 Times in 126 Posts	Re: Who all races with a V6? talk to Lane Weber here

01-18-2009, 02:30 AM	#3
rick lester Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Littlestown PA Posts: 163 Likes: 9 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: Who all races with a V6? Any paticular brand your interested in? To be honest, this will be my first forta with a v6 myself. I am currently building a 91 Chevy S-10 4.3 motor with a manual trans. Why you ask? The biggest reason is I have it and its in the classification guide. Maybe not the best choice but with the people that I have talked to from here have been a HUGE help with all kinds of tidbits and guidance to keep me still interested in this combo. Not one person has talked me out of building it, even when I think I am way over my head. Believe me when I say this, it is no cheaper to build a v6 than a v8, at least with my combo. Still got to have a bulletproof 12 bolt under mine since I'm running a manual trans, so same price there as a v8 motor combo. Still got to have a reliable trans even with at the most 275 hp, 3.19 first gear aluminum case t-10 will work great with my combo but I will be upgrading to a jerico next year so still the same cost as a v8 combo. Some engine parts will be cheaper, maybe some machine work will be cheaper, but in the long run a v8, IN MY OPINION ONLY, would be a more econiminal way to go. Now don't read this as a discouragment in any way, just throwing out some plain facts that I have gathered since I have taken on this project. Hell some pieces are more expensive for my combo than a v8. For example, if I remember correctly, headers; 1 1/2 hedmans are under 200 but there 1 5/8 are over 400. If I was building a v8 car, almost everybody has an used set laying around that they will sell cheap. Now with that beening said, yes I am still building my S-10 for many reasons, one is as I mentioned earlier, two; I love the challenge. This is a t.b.i. system and I have heared of a few in the past using this system so I know it will work, but its still a big challenge to get it to run a second or more under the index (typing that last part with my fingers crossed). Third; other than bracket racing or the .90 classes, how often do you see a first gen. S-10? I know you didn't ask for my two cents but here it is anyway; race what YOU want to race. Do not in any way let anybody tell you not to do it your way. If you decide on a 4000+ pound barge with a straight 6, v6, or even a 4 banger, then do it. IN MY OPINION ONLY, the best part of owing a race car is building it yourself. Now I will get off my soapbox "cause I'm afraid of heights and I'm starting to get sick. lol . STOCKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick.

01-18-2009, 04:01 AM	#4
LNorton Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: RacerTees.com Posts: 505 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Who all races with a V6? 231/100 in a 2002 Firebird __________________ Lee Norton - N229 STK IHRA H/FIA - NHRA O/SA RacerTees.com

01-18-2009, 03:15 PM	#5
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Who all races with a V6? Don't ever be afraid to get on the soapbox with me, I love to hear peoples thoughts and why they do what they do. The challenge and parity are what I love about Stock. I definitely want to build my own car, but I don't want a V8, I am so sick of small blocks after years of dirt cars. I am pretty much "leaning" towards a six, I just got this thought after a Lemans wagon with a 231 came through my shop this last week. I'm waiting on a rulebook to show up, so I can do more studying, but I have spent a ton of time documneting factors on cars, both that I have and can get rather easily. Keep up the input guys, I truly appreciate it all. Last edited by Joe Toller; 01-19-2009 at 02:17 PM.

01-19-2009, 08:34 PM	#6
GarysZ24 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tempe, Az. Posts: 1,261 Likes: 880 Liked 224 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Who all races with a V6? I also recommend Lane "The Hawk" Weber, for V6rwd talk. However, I race a fwd 173c.i. V6...I'm happy that I've enjoyed having a competitive car and not having to spend more than $5k on the engine work, plus the Accel Calmap software to bring out the power that Verle Stevens put in the motor...since my factory computer fought it, and thus a car that should've ran in the 16's instantly when it was built (04/96..yes 1996!), started out running 18.3's...the factory computer didn't like all of the legal mods done to the heads, and camshaft. The only sad part is that my car didn't run the index (or better, for it's first 3yrs), and it wasn't until the '99 MIle Highs (a race I loss the 3rd rd in by just .009), that the car was competitive. However my best break came 2yrs ago, when after years of begging, and the years 2000-2006, barely having a competitive car, NHRA finally dropped my horsepower factor down from the originally high 150, to a much more fair 130hp. I hope you go with the Chevy 229, because it's 3/4's of a small block V8, so some of the parts (such as water pumps, et. al.,), could actually work on that motor that work on a V8? Thus the cost should be reasonable, however the V6 Buick has a big following as well, and with racers such as "The Hawk" out there keeping them on the map, that combo could be competitive in cost as well? I agree with you about wanting something different, which is why all of my noteworthy racing experiences have been with V6, or 4cyl cars (except my 1973 Pontiac Ventura, and it's 350 poncho motor). Good Luck with whatever you decide to do, and you already have a fan from out west, because although I have my own car to race, I'll always root for the slower half of Stock Eliminators race cars (meaning those that actually run 13sec's and slower)!!! __________________ Gary Hampton '86 Z24,173 V6 CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021) Last edited by GarysZ24; 01-19-2009 at 08:38 PM.