New Mustang Sights

Chuck Norton · 02-04-2009, 10:28 PM

Attached are several pictures taken today to clarify any mistaken assumptions from yesterday's line-up. As per usual, some of my assumptions were totally erroneous but then, if there weren't a few such moments in any given week, life would be boring. The four primary cars are now lettered and numbered. The nostalgia-themed dealership names and logos match some of the 1968 Cobra Jet introductions. The SS/EA lettering that appeared on the car that Jim Waldo will be driving has been covered. The additional photographs show an engine compartment that was opened to display the supercharger and other basic components. The photo titled "Virgin ride" is of yet another car, one of two delivered by truck to the track today, this one to be the personal property of John Calvert. Pit-talk assigned the other new arrival to Chris Whitney and Robert Pond.

With a little over twelve hours to go, the interest level in the new iron remains very high.

Several long-distance players appeared today. I had a chance to speak with Lloyd Mac Kay, John Shaul, Al Corda, and Wayne Totaro. I saw the cars of Byron Worner and Billy Leber but did not have a chance to talk with either of them. Alex and Tony Denysenko showed up last weekend in Las Vegas and I saw Alex in Pomona again today.

By 4 PM, signs of the threatened bad weather began to appear from over the Pacific. With some luck, we'll get a couple of hits tomorrow but the next couple of days after that could be problematic. You'll know as soon as the rest of us.

c

BLAZER · 02-04-2009, 10:58 PM

One hell of an air filter--must be from Kenne-Bells " Big Kahuna" collection -Ya think

bill dedman · 02-04-2009, 11:26 PM

You'd think they would have moved heaven and earth to get a cold air package on these cars. That filter is just breathing hot, underhood air. What were they thinking??? Or, is it in a box? I can't tell....

Chuck Norton · 02-05-2009, 12:08 AM

Bill, sorry it's so hard to make out but the pictures are reduced so far that it's hard to make out some of the detail. The intake is isolated and insulated from the engine compartment heat to some degree. Also, I don't know what provisions have been made to cool the air after it passes through the blower. There are so many things to these cars that don't meet the eye that I can't say.

FED 387 · 02-05-2009, 12:09 AM

kinda looks like the set up that GM uses for the 90's camaros where the airbox is "vented" to the left front wheel well and when the hood is down it completes the seal of the top of the box--Think so??? Comp 387

bill dedman · 02-05-2009, 05:53 AM

Thanks for the explanation. I think I see what you're talking about.

With all the other hi-tech mechanations, it just didn't make much sense to feed a supercharger HOT air....

Bill

lstanford · 02-05-2009, 09:52 AM

The cars have an intercooler with a separate switch for an electric pump. The air inlet is isolated in a box with an open filter that receives cool air from the front of the car. The CJ's are well thought out and Ford has been playing with superchargers for the last 8 years. This combined with an old 5.0 racer (Brian Wolfe) at the helm of Ford Racing has produced a state of the art factory race car. No doubt there is mucho HP in the electronics and blower pulley options. Once the traction is figured out they will be formidable players. I still can"t believe that Brian was able to pull this off in this economic environment. Chrysler and GM have the same opportunity. In the past they have chosen to squander their money in pro stock. I think what Ford has done makes more sense to the average Joe. Ford is making all of the CJ parts available through the Ford Racing catalog, including a body in white. They will not price these pieces for about thirty days but they are already in the catalog. A racer can buy a total wreck, order a body in white, order a new Mustang GT or Shelby from the dealer and then modify or build a car of his liking. And--------- he can go to the track and see a car that is available at his dealer. I believe Ford has built an intelligent business case for themselves and they are getting a lot of free PR to boot. They know that not everyone can not afford a $70,000 toy but they are making the parts available to main stream customers and not to a select few. This almost makes to much sense for a car manufacturer. Incidentally, the Cobra Jets at Pomona are on the owners dime. Ford has zero budget for these cars, only some Ford Racing technical assistance. Let's be happy for what Ford has done , after all it is an American car company and we are in a very difficult economic climate. Good luck to the Ford racers.

KJ JONES Racing · 02-05-2009, 01:36 PM

Thanks for the info, Chuck! The CJs really are some very cool Mustangs. Yeah, they're pretty spendy in some people's mind, but I kind'a think they're a good value for someone who wants to literally step right into an NHRA-class-legal stocker, without having to go through the time and expense of "building" a car.

I had the good fortune of being able to spend some personal time with Cobra Jet last November (I drove it at Las Vegas, the weekend after the finals). I know there are quite a few non-believers and non-Ford guys out there who balk at these cars, but I have to say, they really are pretty serious pieces and I think that after the growing pains are gone, they'll do quite well in Stock and Super Stock.

Fred Popov · 02-05-2009, 01:47 PM

Looking at these new CJ engine pictures I see an engine that is pretty much showroom stock. The power steering is there and so is the emission control stuff like the crankcase ventilation, idle control valves etc. I think that it also has the belt driven water pump on it as well. If that's the case, there is a lot of horsepower left in these engines.

KJ JONES Racing · 02-05-2009, 02:12 PM

Word from the track...

The whole fleet of Cobra Jets just busted off 10.0s across the board. Oh, yeah, they're DEEP-nines capable, but I guess they'll all have to be recalled or something for roll-cage upgrades! Call it an oversight or something, but Ford Racing set all of them up with gobs of power...and 8-point roll bars! Doh!

02-04-2009, 10:28 PM	#1
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 108 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	New Mustang Sights Attached are several pictures taken today to clarify any mistaken assumptions from yesterday's line-up. As per usual, some of my assumptions were totally erroneous but then, if there weren't a few such moments in any given week, life would be boring. The four primary cars are now lettered and numbered. The nostalgia-themed dealership names and logos match some of the 1968 Cobra Jet introductions. The SS/EA lettering that appeared on the car that Jim Waldo will be driving has been covered. The additional photographs show an engine compartment that was opened to display the supercharger and other basic components. The photo titled "Virgin ride" is of yet another car, one of two delivered by truck to the track today, this one to be the personal property of John Calvert. Pit-talk assigned the other new arrival to Chris Whitney and Robert Pond. With a little over twelve hours to go, the interest level in the new iron remains very high. Several long-distance players appeared today. I had a chance to speak with Lloyd Mac Kay, John Shaul, Al Corda, and Wayne Totaro. I saw the cars of Byron Worner and Billy Leber but did not have a chance to talk with either of them. Alex and Tony Denysenko showed up last weekend in Las Vegas and I saw Alex in Pomona again today. By 4 PM, signs of the threatened bad weather began to appear from over the Pacific. With some luck, we'll get a couple of hits tomorrow but the next couple of days after that could be problematic. You'll know as soon as the rest of us. c Attached Thumbnails

02-04-2009, 10:58 PM	#2
BLAZER Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wasthere,England Posts: 266 Likes: 1 Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: New Mustang Sights One hell of an air filter--must be from Kenne-Bells " Big Kahuna" collection -Ya think

02-04-2009, 11:26 PM	#3
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Mustang Sightings You'd think they would have moved heaven and earth to get a cold air package on these cars. That filter is just breathing hot, underhood air. What were they thinking??? Or, is it in a box? I can't tell.... __________________ Bill

02-05-2009, 12:08 AM	#4
Chuck Norton Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Covina, CA Posts: 474 Likes: 108 Liked 89 Times in 19 Posts	Re: New Mustang Sights Bill, sorry it's so hard to make out but the pictures are reduced so far that it's hard to make out some of the detail. The intake is isolated and insulated from the engine compartment heat to some degree. Also, I don't know what provisions have been made to cool the air after it passes through the blower. There are so many things to these cars that don't meet the eye that I can't say.

02-05-2009, 12:09 AM	#5
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,421 Likes: 529 Liked 333 Times in 180 Posts	Re: New Mustang Sights kinda looks like the set up that GM uses for the 90's camaros where the airbox is "vented" to the left front wheel well and when the hood is down it completes the seal of the top of the box--Think so??? Comp 387

02-05-2009, 05:53 AM	#6
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Mustang Sights Thanks for the explanation. I think I see what you're talking about. With all the other hi-tech mechanations, it just didn't make much sense to feed a supercharger HOT air.... Bill __________________ Bill

02-05-2009, 09:52 AM	#7
lstanford Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 312 Likes: 1 Liked 134 Times in 32 Posts	Re: New Mustang Sights The cars have an intercooler with a separate switch for an electric pump. The air inlet is isolated in a box with an open filter that receives cool air from the front of the car. The CJ's are well thought out and Ford has been playing with superchargers for the last 8 years. This combined with an old 5.0 racer (Brian Wolfe) at the helm of Ford Racing has produced a state of the art factory race car. No doubt there is mucho HP in the electronics and blower pulley options. Once the traction is figured out they will be formidable players. I still can"t believe that Brian was able to pull this off in this economic environment. Chrysler and GM have the same opportunity. In the past they have chosen to squander their money in pro stock. I think what Ford has done makes more sense to the average Joe. Ford is making all of the CJ parts available through the Ford Racing catalog, including a body in white. They will not price these pieces for about thirty days but they are already in the catalog. A racer can buy a total wreck, order a body in white, order a new Mustang GT or Shelby from the dealer and then modify or build a car of his liking. And--------- he can go to the track and see a car that is available at his dealer. I believe Ford has built an intelligent business case for themselves and they are getting a lot of free PR to boot. They know that not everyone can not afford a $70,000 toy but they are making the parts available to main stream customers and not to a select few. This almost makes to much sense for a car manufacturer. Incidentally, the Cobra Jets at Pomona are on the owners dime. Ford has zero budget for these cars, only some Ford Racing technical assistance. Let's be happy for what Ford has done , after all it is an American car company and we are in a very difficult economic climate. Good luck to the Ford racers.

02-05-2009, 01:36 PM	#8
KJ JONES Racing Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Reseda, CA Posts: 28 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New Mustang Sights Thanks for the info, Chuck! The CJs really are some very cool Mustangs. Yeah, they're pretty spendy in some people's mind, but I kind'a think they're a good value for someone who wants to literally step right into an NHRA-class-legal stocker, without having to go through the time and expense of "building" a car. I had the good fortune of being able to spend some personal time with Cobra Jet last November (I drove it at Las Vegas, the weekend after the finals). I know there are quite a few non-believers and non-Ford guys out there who balk at these cars, but I have to say, they really are pretty serious pieces and I think that after the growing pains are gone, they'll do quite well in Stock and Super Stock. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by KJ JONES Racing; 02-05-2009 at 01:41 PM.

02-05-2009, 01:47 PM	#9
Fred Popov Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 64 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New Mustang Sights Looking at these new CJ engine pictures I see an engine that is pretty much showroom stock. The power steering is there and so is the emission control stuff like the crankcase ventilation, idle control valves etc. I think that it also has the belt driven water pump on it as well. If that's the case, there is a lot of horsepower left in these engines.

02-05-2009, 02:12 PM	#10
KJ JONES Racing Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Reseda, CA Posts: 28 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New Mustang Sights Word from the track... The whole fleet of Cobra Jets just busted off 10.0s across the board. Oh, yeah, they're DEEP-nines capable, but I guess they'll all have to be recalled or something for roll-cage upgrades! Call it an oversight or something, but Ford Racing set all of them up with gobs of power...and 8-point roll bars! Doh!