1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon

rick lester · 03-06-2009, 12:42 AM

I found this on craigslist in Plant City. It has a 318 2 barrel, no ac or pb and has an automatic. At least in the pics it looks decent. How's this as a stocker? Was a 4 barrel optional on this? I'm not a mopar expert but if the combo is good, maybe, just maybe.......I'm up all night and I will be checking classracer from time to time so don't be shy and give me some info. STOCKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick.

rick lester · 03-06-2009, 03:05 AM

Got out the rulebook and went to NHRA site to check it out, and this is what I see.......Can't be run as a 318 car in stock. Comes in at V, V is 4 and 6 cyclinder only, but O in super stock. This is all based as this running as a Fury1 wagon. according to the website they came with 2 different 383's (290/330 factory, 290/295 NHRA ) and 440(350 factory,350 NHRA). both 383's and 440 run 906 heads and 431/443 cam. 440 runs same intake as 375 motor and uses a Holley. Car must weigh 4312 as a Fury1 station wagon 2s. Mopar guys help me on this. I don't know if this is worth even thinking about. 4312 is alot of weight to be pulling around. 383 would be an N, 440 would be I. 8 3/4 rear, 904 trans, 440 350 horse I/SA wagon would be cool. STOCKER MOPAR WAGONS RULE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Rick.

bill dedman · 03-06-2009, 06:52 AM

The transmission would be a 727; no 904's hook up to a B or RB Block; wrong bellhousing bolt pattern. $ound$ like a job for Pro-Tran$....

Sean Haning · 03-06-2009, 07:36 AM

Ask Sean or Tom Ward, They run a a Mopar barge in stock.

Bob Bender · 03-08-2009, 01:31 PM

I have a O/SA 350 ci in a 4400lb kingswood wagon it runs "OK"

Chris Hill · 03-06-2009, 08:28 PM

Would be a cool car to have. The 350 hp 440 is same factored hp as 375 hp engine. The factory 350 hp is not as good of a piece for a comparison. Less cam I know, compression may be off too. Don't know the comparison between the two 4-bbl cars.

The only performance minded station wagons by mopar are a max wedge and hemi car in 66 or something. To my knowledge, they never put the 440 magnum or six pac in a wagon.

Sean Ward · 03-06-2009, 09:52 PM

yeah they put in the 440

Sean Haning · 03-07-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Ward

yeah they put in the 440

I think he's referring to the 375 or 390 hp versions though.

Chris Hill · 03-08-2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Haning

I think he's referring to the 375 or 390 hp versions though.

Is this a GT stocker or regular stock car?

Nitro Joe Jackson · 03-08-2009, 12:12 PM

Since this post has all the Mopar guys attention, got a question........... (and i think i'm right)
I had a guy this week arguing with me on the phone saying he knows a 67 , yes i said 67 Cuda came with a hemi. So you guys pounce on this subject, lol. In my records 383 was the big motor for that rider in 67.

03-06-2009, 12:42 AM	#1
rick lester Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Littlestown PA Posts: 163 Likes: 9 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon I found this on craigslist in Plant City. It has a 318 2 barrel, no ac or pb and has an automatic. At least in the pics it looks decent. How's this as a stocker? Was a 4 barrel optional on this? I'm not a mopar expert but if the combo is good, maybe, just maybe.......I'm up all night and I will be checking classracer from time to time so don't be shy and give me some info. STOCKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rick.

03-06-2009, 03:05 AM	#2
rick lester Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Littlestown PA Posts: 163 Likes: 9 Liked 4 Times in 1 Post	Re: 1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon Got out the rulebook and went to NHRA site to check it out, and this is what I see.......Can't be run as a 318 car in stock. Comes in at V, V is 4 and 6 cyclinder only, but O in super stock. This is all based as this running as a Fury1 wagon. according to the website they came with 2 different 383's (290/330 factory, 290/295 NHRA ) and 440(350 factory,350 NHRA). both 383's and 440 run 906 heads and 431/443 cam. 440 runs same intake as 375 motor and uses a Holley. Car must weigh 4312 as a Fury1 station wagon 2s. Mopar guys help me on this. I don't know if this is worth even thinking about. 4312 is alot of weight to be pulling around. 383 would be an N, 440 would be I. 8 3/4 rear, 904 trans, 440 350 horse I/SA wagon would be cool. STOCKER MOPAR WAGONS RULE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Rick.

03-06-2009, 06:52 AM	#3
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon The transmission would be a 727; no 904's hook up to a B or RB Block; wrong bellhousing bolt pattern. $ound$ like a job for Pro-Tran$.... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 03-06-2009 at 07:03 AM.

03-06-2009, 07:36 AM	#4
Sean Haning Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jacksonville Fl. Posts: 290 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon Ask Sean or Tom Ward, They run a a Mopar barge in stock. __________________ Hired gun w/o gun.

03-08-2009, 01:31 PM	#5
Bob Bender VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,731 Likes: 1,596 Liked 459 Times in 90 Posts	Re: 1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon I have a O/SA 350 ci in a 4400lb kingswood wagon it runs "OK" __________________ Bob Bender 144 O/SA 2010-2012 National Record Holder

03-06-2009, 08:28 PM	#6
Chris Hill Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 655 Likes: 8 Liked 244 Times in 26 Posts	Re: 1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon Would be a cool car to have. The 350 hp 440 is same factored hp as 375 hp engine. The factory 350 hp is not as good of a piece for a comparison. Less cam I know, compression may be off too. Don't know the comparison between the two 4-bbl cars. The only performance minded station wagons by mopar are a max wedge and hemi car in 66 or something. To my knowledge, they never put the 440 magnum or six pac in a wagon. __________________ Chris Hill https://ihmusedparts.com

03-06-2009, 09:52 PM	#7
Sean Ward Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Grand Island FL. Posts: 389 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon yeah they put in the 440 __________________ Sean Ward NHRA s/ss/comp#2882 SW4 MOTORSPORTS

03-08-2009, 12:12 PM	#10
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 57 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: 1969 Plymouth Suburban Wagon Since this post has all the Mopar guys attention, got a question........... (and i think i'm right) I had a guy this week arguing with me on the phone saying he knows a 67 , yes i said 67 Cuda came with a hemi. So you guys pounce on this subject, lol. In my records 383 was the big motor for that rider in 67. __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com