Super Classes Future

Dave Steltz · 07-08-2009, 12:23 PM

So after the "big" (not) turnout this past weekend at LVD for the D1 race (only 44 in SG), I started thinking about the future of SG SST SC at Division races...

I was reading a post on the Stk/Super Stock page, about some disapointment that NHRA gave the Top guys time shots and didnt give them to us (especially not SG as usual)...

To me it appears that they are trying to replace us with Top Dragster and Top Sportsman...not sure how I feel about that...Dunno if they figure that some of us will give up and the fields will become small enough that we will just be filler...

Of course most SST SG SC cars can go bracket racing or small series racing (NESSA and MASGA up north)...not like the Stk or S/Stk guys...

Peresonally I got tired this year of sitting for a couple of days, with the slight hope of a time shot, and then racing when ever NHRA got around to running SG, so I have been bracket racing and NESSA racing and guess what...

I am having fun again for the first time in a few years...the tracks have a schedule that they adhere to, and no classes are left out..yes sometimes the weather is bad and it one and go, but its one and go THAT DAY, not one friday and go sunday...

I do miss the friends I see at Div races and the fun parties etc...but at my home track (LVD) there is a great bunch of guys and the track has been really good this year...

I know some will chase the Divisional trail no matter what, but for me I just got tired of the BS that comes with it, all the days off work, travel etc...and no one better post here that they do it for the money that you might win at a D1 race, cause if you aint in the final you dont hardly pay for the entry...

Come on, lets hear it...

Michael Pliska · 07-08-2009, 01:07 PM

I'm kind of torn about this. I'm just finishing the resurrection of my S/G car after 15+ years in mothballs. When NHRA raised the fees I swore I would just slow it into the 10's and bracket race it (money is really tight due to salary reduction). Then I managed to sell a few old parts on ebay, so I ended up getting all the updated safety stuff for S/G. With any luck, tonight will be my first race out with the car (still need to head back home and replace the seized fuel pumps), and this weekend is my local LODRS race (Woodburn). However, for less money (but a 3.5 hour drive) I can run a diesel-only bracket race this weekend (racing my Dually) and have a decent chance of actually making money. As much as I miss S/G racing, I'm going diesel bracket racing this weekend.

Regards,

Nitro Joe Jackson · 07-08-2009, 01:35 PM

This is one of the reasons we are trying to make the Jegs Super Series at Nationals Trails work, next week, July 18th is the next event, its a one day race on Sat, you come in, pay i think it's $65 to enter, i qualify everybody on a ladder off of 2 qualifying rounds, we race, we get out of there and while we are at it, have a lot of fun.
I see a lot of people running these deals you hardly ever see at divisional races and at times i dont blame them at all for only running weekly series events.

Charlie Yannetti · 07-08-2009, 04:53 PM

Hi Dave..... I hear and feel what you're saying..... D1 has to take a good look at how they run their event at LVD..... this year had a whacky run schedule with classes split up, moved around, and even a jumbled run order..... I guess it is their right, but it made the race a little uncomfortable..... and the flying brown clay clouds when the circle track opens is rediculous and one of the big reasons why some guys won't come..... I wouldn't be there with anything that requires between rounds engine maintenance.....

A lot of guys are not believing that the track is better.... I can tell you that the race surface is greatly improved and track management is WAY better.... shut down is still a bit bumpy....

I've been torn between staying in S/G or turning the roadster into a bracket car..... time and money makes bracket racing look really good these days..... and I'm sure that I can fit in with the people wherever I choose to go cause most of them used to be Super racers...... but it's still a tough decision......

I hope you stick around.... it's us real roadster guys..... and then there are the Vettes....... LOL

Bryan Gillespie · 07-08-2009, 05:27 PM

Dave I think the low car count is STILL THE ECONOMY , things are moving but at a slower pace, LVD is not a track that is centrally located.. $ 100.00 just in tolls for me. about the DIV. races I and probably a few others run them to get the grade points to run the Nats. which I enjoy.
About s/st, s/g, s/c I'm not 100% sure but the name says FULL THROTTLE or go home . HMMMM???

H.A.A.C. Racing · 07-08-2009, 06:54 PM

I am happy to say I was thrilled with the job NHRA and LVD did this past weekend! I have skipped this event in the past before because the track water problem was a joke! With all the water this palce took on, this event could have not run smoother. As far as the "modified" run order the place had 4 rain delays on Friday, and one on Sat, what does anyone expect? Super Gas has always been last (no suprise there) Super Street got 3 time runs, but we have to be out @ 8:00 in the morning. I think everyone is forgetting that everyone is there to see T/A, T/D & T/S, just like at a National, you have to give the fans what they want. The owners of these tracks only have a couple of events a year to make big money at an event like this.

I will be at this event next year and having fun doing it. Hats off to LVD for turning their operation around!

07-08-2009, 12:23 PM	#1
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Super Classes Future So after the "big" (not) turnout this past weekend at LVD for the D1 race (only 44 in SG), I started thinking about the future of SG SST SC at Division races... I was reading a post on the Stk/Super Stock page, about some disapointment that NHRA gave the Top guys time shots and didnt give them to us (especially not SG as usual)... To me it appears that they are trying to replace us with Top Dragster and Top Sportsman...not sure how I feel about that...Dunno if they figure that some of us will give up and the fields will become small enough that we will just be filler... Of course most SST SG SC cars can go bracket racing or small series racing (NESSA and MASGA up north)...not like the Stk or S/Stk guys... Peresonally I got tired this year of sitting for a couple of days, with the slight hope of a time shot, and then racing when ever NHRA got around to running SG, so I have been bracket racing and NESSA racing and guess what... I am having fun again for the first time in a few years...the tracks have a schedule that they adhere to, and no classes are left out..yes sometimes the weather is bad and it one and go, but its one and go THAT DAY, not one friday and go sunday... I do miss the friends I see at Div races and the fun parties etc...but at my home track (LVD) there is a great bunch of guys and the track has been really good this year... I know some will chase the Divisional trail no matter what, but for me I just got tired of the BS that comes with it, all the days off work, travel etc...and no one better post here that they do it for the money that you might win at a D1 race, cause if you aint in the final you dont hardly pay for the entry... Come on, lets hear it... __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

07-08-2009, 01:07 PM	#2
Michael Pliska Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Happy Valley, OR Posts: 260 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super Classes Future I'm kind of torn about this. I'm just finishing the resurrection of my S/G car after 15+ years in mothballs. When NHRA raised the fees I swore I would just slow it into the 10's and bracket race it (money is really tight due to salary reduction). Then I managed to sell a few old parts on ebay, so I ended up getting all the updated safety stuff for S/G. With any luck, tonight will be my first race out with the car (still need to head back home and replace the seized fuel pumps), and this weekend is my local LODRS race (Woodburn). However, for less money (but a 3.5 hour drive) I can run a diesel-only bracket race this weekend (racing my Dually) and have a decent chance of actually making money. As much as I miss S/G racing, I'm going diesel bracket racing this weekend. Regards, __________________ Michael Pliska 643 S/G

07-08-2009, 01:35 PM	#3
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 58 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Super Classes Future This is one of the reasons we are trying to make the Jegs Super Series at Nationals Trails work, next week, July 18th is the next event, its a one day race on Sat, you come in, pay i think it's $65 to enter, i qualify everybody on a ladder off of 2 qualifying rounds, we race, we get out of there and while we are at it, have a lot of fun. I see a lot of people running these deals you hardly ever see at divisional races and at times i dont blame them at all for only running weekly series events. __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

07-08-2009, 04:53 PM	#4
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 568 Likes: 188 Liked 192 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Super Classes Future Hi Dave..... I hear and feel what you're saying..... D1 has to take a good look at how they run their event at LVD..... this year had a whacky run schedule with classes split up, moved around, and even a jumbled run order..... I guess it is their right, but it made the race a little uncomfortable..... and the flying brown clay clouds when the circle track opens is rediculous and one of the big reasons why some guys won't come..... I wouldn't be there with anything that requires between rounds engine maintenance..... A lot of guys are not believing that the track is better.... I can tell you that the race surface is greatly improved and track management is WAY better.... shut down is still a bit bumpy.... I've been torn between staying in S/G or turning the roadster into a bracket car..... time and money makes bracket racing look really good these days..... and I'm sure that I can fit in with the people wherever I choose to go cause most of them used to be Super racers...... but it's still a tough decision...... I hope you stick around.... it's us real roadster guys..... and then there are the Vettes....... LOL

07-08-2009, 05:27 PM	#5
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super Classes Future Dave I think the low car count is STILL THE ECONOMY , things are moving but at a slower pace, LVD is not a track that is centrally located.. $ 100.00 just in tolls for me. about the DIV. races I and probably a few others run them to get the grade points to run the Nats. which I enjoy. About s/st, s/g, s/c I'm not 100% sure but the name says FULL THROTTLE or go home . HMMMM???

07-08-2009, 06:54 PM	#6
H.A.A.C. Racing Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 320 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super Classes Future I am happy to say I was thrilled with the job NHRA and LVD did this past weekend! I have skipped this event in the past before because the track water problem was a joke! With all the water this palce took on, this event could have not run smoother. As far as the "modified" run order the place had 4 rain delays on Friday, and one on Sat, what does anyone expect? Super Gas has always been last (no suprise there) Super Street got 3 time runs, but we have to be out @ 8:00 in the morning. I think everyone is forgetting that everyone is there to see T/A, T/D & T/S, just like at a National, you have to give the fans what they want. The owners of these tracks only have a couple of events a year to make big money at an event like this. I will be at this event next year and having fun doing it. Hats off to LVD for turning their operation around!