IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes?

Tweaker · 09-25-2009, 07:43 AM

I'm trying to go through the rulebook to determine if I fit anywhere, I would like to run when the Nitro Jam comes to my local track at Palm Beach International, so If i fit anywhere I can become an IHRA member and get prepared since the race is in January.

I was thinking maybe I fit in the Stock Fuel Injection class 12.00-12.99, Let me know. I'm not sure how strict it is with mods/bolt-ons. I'm going to list my mods so you can perhaps help me know if I belong anywhere or not.

I haven't ran the car yet since i switched to 15 inch wheels and the light weight driveshaft but from my estimates should be in the mid 12's. Looking around 12.40-12.50 for this fall/winter. Previous best was 12.7

The car was dyno'd at 312rwhp

2007 Mustang GT
Engine: 4.6L
Shift Light
Mirror Covers
Aftermarket Grille
Roush Window Louvers
GMS Driveshaft Loop
Hurst Line-Locks
5 Speed Transmission
Ford 4:10 Rear-end Gears
Hurst Billet Short Shifter
Custom VMP Dyno Tune
UPR Sway Bar Removal Kit
Steeda Under Drive Pullies
C&L "Racer" Cold Air Intake
1-Piece Alum Driveshaft
Steeda Upper & Lower Control Arms
Pypes Off-Road H-Pipe
Flowmaster Axle-back Exhaust
15 inch Summit Wheels
26" ET Fronts
27" ET Streets

An Old Photo of the car before the 15 inch wheels+tires.

Bob Pagano · 09-25-2009, 07:53 AM

First off is Stock Fuel Injection class 12.00-12.99, this is not a reference to et, its weight break. and a fast look at your list you have Steeda Upper & Lower Control Arms, these are not allowed in Stock. I do not have my rule book handy but look under modified stock. Some of the IHRA guys will fill you in.

Dion Hildebrandt · 09-25-2009, 07:59 AM

I havent got my rule book in front of me but off hand i would say that the grille, the window louvers, the cold air intake ,and the steeda control arms gotta go. And the 12.00-12.99 reference is a weight break figured by a factored hp to weight formula and adding 170 pounds for driver will give you a minimum weight.

Tweaker · 09-25-2009, 08:01 AM

holy cow weird rule not to allow louvers,grille.. They only allow stock control arms? The stock control arms are horrible lol. Bummer, it sounds like I won't be able to run any classes. That is depressing, figured I fit in somewhere.

Is their any class that the car can fit into?

perhaps modified stock or else where? My grille is just an overlay on the stock grille.. =/ and rousch louvers come on rousch's so its not like off the wall :P

Alex Denysenko · 09-25-2009, 08:21 AM

Replacement rear upper and lower control arms are allowed in stock.
Only the uppers can be adjustable, the lowers cannot.
I do not think that IHRA would have a problem with the grill or louvers.
Even NHRA allows non Z-28 Camaros to use Z-28 trim.
Aluminum drive shaft is allowed in IHRA stock.
Pullies should be OK.
Cold air kit needs to be looked at by IHRA tech as some direct replacement units are OK.

Good luck.

Tweaker · 09-25-2009, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko

Replacement rear upper and lower control arms are allowed in stock.
Only the uppers can be adjustable, the lowers cannot.
I do not think that IHRA would have a problem with the grill or louvers.
Even NHRA allows non Z-28 Camaros to use Z-28 trim.
Aluminum drive shaft is allowed in IHRA stock.
Pullies should be OK.
Cold air kit needs to be looked at by IHRA tech as some direct replacement units are OK.

Good luck.

thats good news. My control arms are both non-adjustable.

Do you think I fit more in with Stock Fuel injected or Modified stock, im trying to see who i can contact at IHRA for more info. What division is FL in IHRA?

Tweaker · 09-25-2009, 08:34 AM

so they add 170 pounds to the car's weight no matter what?

I only weigh 160.

Dion Hildebrandt · 09-25-2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweaker

holy cow weird rule not to allow louvers,grille.. They only allow stock control arms? The stock control arms are horrible lol. Bummer, it sounds like I won't be able to run any classes. That is depressing, figured I fit in somewhere.

Is their any class that the car can fit into?

perhaps modified stock or else where? My grille is just an overlay on the stock grille.. =/ and rousch louvers come on rousch's so its not like off the wall :P

if your car is not a Roush than the louvers arent stock.

greg fulk · 09-25-2009, 11:56 AM

Sounds to me like you have a D/PS car! take the underdrive pullies off & also the cold air... car would have to weigh 3470 with you in it & the index is 13.10! or you can leave everything the way it is add a roll bar & run G/SA the same weight & the index is 12.30....

Ed Martin · 09-25-2009, 01:58 PM

Class racing is a science. I was new to it several years ago and the best advice I have is to find someone in your hometown who has been at this for years, become his/her best friend and allow that person to be your mentor. This person will explain the rule book and classification guide for your class step by step, face to face, and work with you on your combination. You won't get all the secrets but at least you will be off and running. This is how I narrowed my learning curve. Good luck!

09-25-2009, 07:43 AM	#1
Tweaker Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes? I'm trying to go through the rulebook to determine if I fit anywhere, I would like to run when the Nitro Jam comes to my local track at Palm Beach International, so If i fit anywhere I can become an IHRA member and get prepared since the race is in January. I was thinking maybe I fit in the Stock Fuel Injection class 12.00-12.99, Let me know. I'm not sure how strict it is with mods/bolt-ons. I'm going to list my mods so you can perhaps help me know if I belong anywhere or not. I haven't ran the car yet since i switched to 15 inch wheels and the light weight driveshaft but from my estimates should be in the mid 12's. Looking around 12.40-12.50 for this fall/winter. Previous best was 12.7 The car was dyno'd at 312rwhp 2007 Mustang GT Engine: 4.6L Shift Light Mirror Covers Aftermarket Grille Roush Window Louvers GMS Driveshaft Loop Hurst Line-Locks 5 Speed Transmission Ford 4:10 Rear-end Gears Hurst Billet Short Shifter Custom VMP Dyno Tune UPR Sway Bar Removal Kit Steeda Under Drive Pullies C&L "Racer" Cold Air Intake 1-Piece Alum Driveshaft Steeda Upper & Lower Control Arms Pypes Off-Road H-Pipe Flowmaster Axle-back Exhaust 15 inch Summit Wheels 26" ET Fronts 27" ET Streets An Old Photo of the car before the 15 inch wheels+tires. Last edited by Tweaker; 09-25-2009 at 07:48 AM.

09-25-2009, 07:53 AM	#2
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 241 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes? First off is Stock Fuel Injection class 12.00-12.99, this is not a reference to et, its weight break. and a fast look at your list you have Steeda Upper & Lower Control Arms, these are not allowed in Stock. I do not have my rule book handy but look under modified stock. Some of the IHRA guys will fill you in. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

09-25-2009, 07:59 AM	#3
Dion Hildebrandt Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 383 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes? I havent got my rule book in front of me but off hand i would say that the grille, the window louvers, the cold air intake ,and the steeda control arms gotta go. And the 12.00-12.99 reference is a weight break figured by a factored hp to weight formula and adding 170 pounds for driver will give you a minimum weight. __________________ Dion Hildebrandt 6009 STK H/SA

09-25-2009, 08:01 AM	#4
Tweaker Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes? holy cow weird rule not to allow louvers,grille.. They only allow stock control arms? The stock control arms are horrible lol. Bummer, it sounds like I won't be able to run any classes. That is depressing, figured I fit in somewhere. Is their any class that the car can fit into? perhaps modified stock or else where? My grille is just an overlay on the stock grille.. =/ and rousch louvers come on rousch's so its not like off the wall :P Last edited by Tweaker; 09-25-2009 at 08:11 AM.

09-25-2009, 08:21 AM	#5
Alex Denysenko Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Michigan City IN Posts: 633 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes? Replacement rear upper and lower control arms are allowed in stock. Only the uppers can be adjustable, the lowers cannot. I do not think that IHRA would have a problem with the grill or louvers. Even NHRA allows non Z-28 Camaros to use Z-28 trim. Aluminum drive shaft is allowed in IHRA stock. Pullies should be OK. Cold air kit needs to be looked at by IHRA tech as some direct replacement units are OK. Good luck. __________________ Alex Denysenko NHRA 3038 SS, 3305 STK - IHRA 6 SS, 330A STK Moneymaker Racing LaPorte Indiana 219-861-1214 www.moneymakerracing.net

09-25-2009, 08:34 AM	#7
Tweaker Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes? so they add 170 pounds to the car's weight no matter what? I only weigh 160.

09-25-2009, 11:56 AM	#9
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes? Sounds to me like you have a D/PS car! take the underdrive pullies off & also the cold air... car would have to weigh 3470 with you in it & the index is 13.10! or you can leave everything the way it is add a roll bar & run G/SA the same weight & the index is 12.30.... __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

09-25-2009, 01:58 PM	#10
Ed Martin Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: IHRA coming to my local track PBIR, Can I run in any of the classes? Class racing is a science. I was new to it several years ago and the best advice I have is to find someone in your hometown who has been at this for years, become his/her best friend and allow that person to be your mentor. This person will explain the rule book and classification guide for your class step by step, face to face, and work with you on your combination. You won't get all the secrets but at least you will be off and running. This is how I narrowed my learning curve. Good luck! __________________ Ed Martin SS/IA 910