Big silly rookie question

Joe Toller · 03-12-2010, 10:09 PM

I think I'll have my 87 Lancer turbo ready to go Stock racing, and it looks like I'll have to head to a Divisional in ID or BC to run. My big silly question is, how does the whole teching, registering and classifying the car for Stock go? All I've ever done is run sportsman brackets at home. Just wondering what I need to do ahead of time, and what to prepare for at the event. Thanks in advance!

Mike Carr · 03-12-2010, 10:23 PM

What combination do you run? Most cars are eligible to run three different classes (it's natural class, up one, and down one). Once you tech in in a particular class, you can not change it. Might want to head to the scales before teching, to see what the car weight is (with driver), to see what adjusments might be needed. Some cars will do "better" in a different class, based on weight and Index.

Mike Carr · 03-12-2010, 10:33 PM

As far as what you'll need when you go through tech and registration:

-Your NHRA Stock Competition license and NHRA membership
-Tech card filled out accurately and completely

They will check your helmet, that it meets specs, and for a seatbelt. They may ask to have you open your hood and trunk to look at things (make sure battery is secure, overflow tank of sufficient capacity, etc). Once they OK and pass you, you're done until the first time trial. Like I said earlier, you might want to check the weight at the scales before teching, in case the car is heavier/lighter than you may have thought (all scales can read different). If you can not add/take out enough weight to make that class, you may have the option of moving up or down a class, as long as you can meet the minimum weight with driver.

Joe Toller · 03-13-2010, 11:38 PM

Yes, 135 cid turbo

Mike Carr · 03-15-2010, 10:35 PM

The Sedan 4 door breaks at 16.50, making it a natural BF/S, meaning it can also run A and C, with weight adjustments. The Sedan 4 door SE, breaks at 16.86, and will fit the same three classes. It's factory rating is 146, with an NHRA rating is 160. So you will multiply 160 x the class weight break, add 170, and will give you the minimum weight for each class, as follows.

AF/S 13 x 160 + 170 = 2,250 pounds minimum weight (seems highly unlikely that your car could get to the class' minimum weight. Class Index is 13.85 seconds.
BF/S 16 x 160 + 170 = 2,730 min wt. Class Index is 14.65 sec. This is the closest weight to the cars natural factory shipping weight.
CF/S 17.5 x 160 + 170 = 2,970 min wt. Class Index is 15.15 sec.

Hope this helps.

Joe Toller · 03-16-2010, 07:05 PM

Thank you very much for that info. I was wondering what class I'd be in. Think I need to see what it'll do, and I'm betting I'm closer to CF weight because this thing is loaded to the nines. I'll go get it on a scale this weekend and go from there. Thanks!

I also have an 86 Lebaron GTS, and it's manual windows, non-tilt etc, probably would be a great car too, and lighter, and I could always swap stuff over since the mechanicals are the exact same. Guess I'd better get to work!

Thanks again!

Steve Williams · 03-12-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr

What combination do you run? Most cars are eligible to run three different classes (it's natural class, up one, and down one). Once you tech in in a particular class, you can not change it. Might want to head to the scales before teching, to see what the car weight is (with driver), to see what adjusments might be needed. Some cars will do "better" in a different class, based on weight and Index.

Excellent advice!

Dion Hildebrandt · 03-13-2010, 01:24 AM

[ Once you tech in in a particular class, you can not change it. Might want to head to the scales before teching, to see what the car weight is (with driver), to see what adjusments might be needed.

Good advice, the first time I teched my chevelle as a stocker, I had issues with weight and went up to the tower to change designations twice. All this effort earned me was a visit from the head tech inspector for verification that me 'velle fit into the claimed class.Double check and recheck your safety equipment as the div 6 guys pay particular attention to those items ,other than that be ready for some schooling! Oh try and get the guy that is smiling he is more likely to have a sense of humor and less likely to take his foul mood out on you!

Jim Cassels · 03-13-2010, 08:07 AM

All good advice, don,t forget your fuel check valve.
Jim

gmonde · 03-13-2010, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Cassels

All good advice, don,t forget your fuel check valve.
Jim

thats a biggie right there,,with your fuel injected car you can put a shut off valve in place of the schrader valve off the fuel rail gmonde

03-12-2010, 10:09 PM	#1
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Big silly rookie question I think I'll have my 87 Lancer turbo ready to go Stock racing, and it looks like I'll have to head to a Divisional in ID or BC to run. My big silly question is, how does the whole teching, registering and classifying the car for Stock go? All I've ever done is run sportsman brackets at home. Just wondering what I need to do ahead of time, and what to prepare for at the event. Thanks in advance!

03-12-2010, 10:23 PM	#2
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Big silly rookie question What combination do you run? Most cars are eligible to run three different classes (it's natural class, up one, and down one). Once you tech in in a particular class, you can not change it. Might want to head to the scales before teching, to see what the car weight is (with driver), to see what adjusments might be needed. Some cars will do "better" in a different class, based on weight and Index. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

03-12-2010, 10:33 PM	#3
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Big silly rookie question As far as what you'll need when you go through tech and registration: -Your NHRA Stock Competition license and NHRA membership -Tech card filled out accurately and completely They will check your helmet, that it meets specs, and for a seatbelt. They may ask to have you open your hood and trunk to look at things (make sure battery is secure, overflow tank of sufficient capacity, etc). Once they OK and pass you, you're done until the first time trial. Like I said earlier, you might want to check the weight at the scales before teching, in case the car is heavier/lighter than you may have thought (all scales can read different). If you can not add/take out enough weight to make that class, you may have the option of moving up or down a class, as long as you can meet the minimum weight with driver. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

03-13-2010, 11:38 PM	#4
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Big silly rookie question Yes, 135 cid turbo

03-15-2010, 10:35 PM	#5
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Big silly rookie question The Sedan 4 door breaks at 16.50, making it a natural BF/S, meaning it can also run A and C, with weight adjustments. The Sedan 4 door SE, breaks at 16.86, and will fit the same three classes. It's factory rating is 146, with an NHRA rating is 160. So you will multiply 160 x the class weight break, add 170, and will give you the minimum weight for each class, as follows. AF/S 13 x 160 + 170 = 2,250 pounds minimum weight (seems highly unlikely that your car could get to the class' minimum weight. Class Index is 13.85 seconds. BF/S 16 x 160 + 170 = 2,730 min wt. Class Index is 14.65 sec. This is the closest weight to the cars natural factory shipping weight. CF/S 17.5 x 160 + 170 = 2,970 min wt. Class Index is 15.15 sec. Hope this helps. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

03-16-2010, 07:05 PM	#6
Joe Toller Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lewistown, Montana Posts: 550 Likes: 78 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Big silly rookie question Thank you very much for that info. I was wondering what class I'd be in. Think I need to see what it'll do, and I'm betting I'm closer to CF weight because this thing is loaded to the nines. I'll go get it on a scale this weekend and go from there. Thanks! I also have an 86 Lebaron GTS, and it's manual windows, non-tilt etc, probably would be a great car too, and lighter, and I could always swap stuff over since the mechanicals are the exact same. Guess I'd better get to work! Thanks again!

03-13-2010, 01:24 AM	#8
Dion Hildebrandt Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: calgary alberta canada Posts: 383 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Big silly rookie question [ Once you tech in in a particular class, you can not change it. Might want to head to the scales before teching, to see what the car weight is (with driver), to see what adjusments might be needed. Good advice, the first time I teched my chevelle as a stocker, I had issues with weight and went up to the tower to change designations twice. All this effort earned me was a visit from the head tech inspector for verification that me 'velle fit into the claimed class.Double check and recheck your safety equipment as the div 6 guys pay particular attention to those items ,other than that be ready for some schooling! Oh try and get the guy that is smiling he is more likely to have a sense of humor and less likely to take his foul mood out on you! __________________ Dion Hildebrandt 6009 STK H/SA

03-13-2010, 08:07 AM	#9
Jim Cassels Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cairo, Ga. Posts: 90 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Big silly rookie question All good advice, don,t forget your fuel check valve. Jim