Hood scoopes

X-TECH MAN · 09-07-2010, 04:48 PM

Dont take this wrong but when did NHRA allow hood scoops on 1966 Street Hemis and the fiberglass Ford hood and scoop on the 427 Ford Fairlane station wagons (west coast car) with either one 4 or two 4's? I think they look cool but they originally did not come on those combos. 67 was the first year for the Street Hemis as a WO or an RO S/S package and the 2 door hard tops and sedans were the only Fairlanes with a glass hood and scoop. Was this a change made in recent times? Im just asking when this came about? Was it a letter from Carrol Shelby or mother MoPar?

BlueOval Ralph · 09-07-2010, 05:13 PM

It's called paper options!!! Been thinking about building a 66 Shelby with hood scoop and Paxton I thought i saw in in NHRA specs

Frank Bialas · 09-07-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Dont take this wrong but when did NHRA allow hood scoopes on 1966 Street Hemis and the fiberglass Ford hood and scoop on the 427 Ford station wagons (west coast car) with either one 4 or two 4's? I think they look cool but they originally did not come on those combos. 67 was the first year for the Street Hemis as a WO or an RO S/S package and the 2 door hard tops and sedans were the only Fairlanes with a glass hood and scoope. Was this a change made in recent times? Im just asking when this came about? Was it a letter from Carrol Shelby or mother MoPar?

Terry I believe your right, because MOPAR DID NOT put a scoop on anything in 1966... The STREET HEMIS were available in Dodges & Plymouths in the hardtop or sedans in 66 & 67, but WITHOUT a scoop!!! In 1967 the RACE HEMIS were available in Dodges & Plymouths WO and RO package was superstock ONLY and hardtop ONLY and yes WITH a scoop!!! Your memory serves you well, not sure about the FORDS but we know someone that does.Maybe there was a letter -[MORE PAPER]

X-TECH MAN · 09-07-2010, 09:52 PM

And how did the single 4 NASCAR verson end up with a scoop? Did you ever see a NASCAR race back in 1964 or 65 where the mopars were running a hood scoop? I watched and I didnt see a single mopar with a hood scoop running around Daytona !

Frank Bialas · 09-07-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

And how did the single 4 NASCAR verson end up with a scoop? Did you ever see a NASCAR race back in 1964 or 65 where the mopars were running a hood scoop? I didnt !

Yet another good question, probably more [GOOD PAPER] it must be legal, cause it's HAPPENING. HEY DAVE MANN IF YOUR OUT THERE WATCHING WHAT DO YOU THINK??? AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT I ONCE HAD A PAPER ROUTE.

Shawn Blair · 09-07-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Bialas

Terry I believe your right, because MOPAR DID NOT put a scoop on anything in 1966... The STREET HEMIS were available in Dodges & Plymouths in the hardtop or sedans in 66 & 67, but WITHOUT a scoop!!! In 1967 the RACE HEMIS were available in Dodges & Plymouths WO and RO package was superstock ONLY and hardtop ONLY and yes WITH a scoop!!! Your memory serves you well, not sure about the FORDS but we know someone that does.Maybe there was a letter -[MORE PAPER]

Yes........... but the engines were street Hemi's in the RO/WO cars. lower compression and inline dual Carter's!

Jeff Lee · 09-08-2010, 01:24 AM

And I remember a Stock racer who had a 428 CJ '68 Cougar in E/S. He fought NHRA for a ram-air system & they said "no, never existed". I'm no Ford expert but I would bet the evidence is there that Cougars were available with ram-air in '67-'68 (non shaker style).

X-TECH MAN · 09-08-2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

And I remember a Stock racer who had a 428 CJ '68 Cougar in E/S. He fought NHRA for a ram-air system & they said "no, never existed". I'm no Ford expert but I would bet the evidence is there that Cougars were available with ram-air in '67-'68 (non shaker style).

69 only.....but NHRA has allowed a lot of stuff that never came OEM on a lot of combos since Farmer retired.

Dick Butler · 09-08-2010, 06:59 AM

Simple answer-Use what you can get away with in Tech. The water gets muddier with time and the fine points are lost.
Too many combinatiions to police and know as most dyed in the wool car guys gradually disappear and lack of true concern for detail remains.

John Lang · 09-08-2010, 12:56 PM

Guy's, A letter was submitted to the NHRA from Mopar Performance, stating the there were some 67 Dr Post cars both Dodge & Plymouth with the hood scoop ! So all are legal if they are 67, 2Dr Post Cars, in addition to the WO & RO Cars, which were 2DrHp!.......Later, John

09-07-2010, 04:48 PM	#1
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Hood scoopes Dont take this wrong but when did NHRA allow hood scoops on 1966 Street Hemis and the fiberglass Ford hood and scoop on the 427 Ford Fairlane station wagons (west coast car) with either one 4 or two 4's? I think they look cool but they originally did not come on those combos. 67 was the first year for the Street Hemis as a WO or an RO S/S package and the 2 door hard tops and sedans were the only Fairlanes with a glass hood and scoop. Was this a change made in recent times? Im just asking when this came about? Was it a letter from Carrol Shelby or mother MoPar? Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 09-07-2010 at 09:53 PM.

09-07-2010, 05:13 PM	#2
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hood scoopes It's called paper options!!! Been thinking about building a 66 Shelby with hood scoop and Paxton I thought i saw in in NHRA specs

09-07-2010, 09:52 PM	#4
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Hood scoopes And how did the single 4 NASCAR verson end up with a scoop? Did you ever see a NASCAR race back in 1964 or 65 where the mopars were running a hood scoop? I watched and I didnt see a single mopar with a hood scoop running around Daytona ! Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 09-07-2010 at 10:20 PM.

09-08-2010, 01:24 AM	#7
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Hood scoopes And I remember a Stock racer who had a 428 CJ '68 Cougar in E/S. He fought NHRA for a ram-air system & they said "no, never existed". I'm no Ford expert but I would bet the evidence is there that Cougars were available with ram-air in '67-'68 (non shaker style). __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

09-08-2010, 06:59 AM	#9
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Hood scoopes Simple answer-Use what you can get away with in Tech. The water gets muddier with time and the fine points are lost. Too many combinatiions to police and know as most dyed in the wool car guys gradually disappear and lack of true concern for detail remains.

09-08-2010, 12:56 PM	#10
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Hood scoopes Guy's, A letter was submitted to the NHRA from Mopar Performance, stating the there were some 67 Dr Post cars both Dodge & Plymouth with the hood scoop ! So all are legal if they are 67, 2Dr Post Cars, in addition to the WO & RO Cars, which were 2DrHp!.......Later, John __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS