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Old 06-17-2011, 01:06 PM   #1
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Default Where are the lower class cars?

Looking at Stock qualifying at Bristol. Only seven cars in classes lower than G/SA. I guess everybody's need for speed trumps again.
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:26 PM   #2
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Default Re: Where are the lower class cars?

No altitude factor (the 4-cylinder is massively effected by the altitude. I was almost half a second slower at Bristol than even Numidia!) and unrealistic weight breaks (225 lbs heavy for DF/S, 400 light for EF/S) makes it an impossibility for me.
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Old 06-17-2011, 01:48 PM   #3
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Default Re: Where are the lower class cars?

Lots of reasons, Dwight. Most of them attributable to NHRA policies.

I'll give you one, but I'd like to hear other's opinions.

Class money...non-existent . Many lower class racers depended on it to help offset travel and entry expenses.
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:01 PM   #4
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Lots of reasons, Dwight. Most of them attributable to NHRA policies.



Class money...non-existent . Many lower class racers depended on it to help offset travel and entry expenses.
Mark - Class money is the same for every class - that being said if you had 5 in a lower class only one would benefit from the class money for expenses and entries - so they ( the other four ) would still not be able to afford being there .....Or is it that you would like to reopen the single class deal again ?
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:50 PM   #5
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Mark - Class money is the same for every class - that being said if you had 5 in a lower class only one would benefit from the class money for expenses and entries - so they ( the other four ) would still not be able to afford being there .....Or is it that you would like to reopen the single class deal again ?
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Yes it is , but if you can afford a quarter million operation, you don't worry about a little bit of class money.
The reason there were singles in class was not the racer's fault. There were just too many factors that kept people from building for the lower / slower classes.
What they did about was just a band aid for what they created.
That being said, if you can qualify no.1 , you should be able to win a combo class about anywhere.
You just don't necessarily need new slicks every month, twice the pistons, rods, rings, ceramic bottom lifters, etc.
Oh, and sorry I disparaged your Homies today and got your dander up!
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Default Re: Where are the lower class cars?

It's a lot of things but the bottom line is if you can afford to build a 'new' factory car then you have the money to race it. And if you have spent the time and money to build one then you are going to race it. Most new cars fit in the upper classes and are fast. Hence top qualifiers.
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Default Re: Where are the lower class cars?

Mark - My dander is fine ..........And as you know I raced lower class cars for almost thirty years so I fully understand but its not the NHRA's fault either that racers started liking fast ( as in speed ) cars .And you're right - a slow class car can easily win the combo deal along with the pewter Wally and whatever money .

One last thing - a racer can run a late model LT1 FI combo in A - B - C - D for a lot less than your quarter mill budget . Just ask Santangelo or Simmons who are competing this weekend at Bristol .
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:49 AM   #8
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Default Re: Where are the lower class cars?

WITH 7 CARS LEFT IN STK. ELIM.

THERE IS A M/SA & a R/SA that are still in.

Good Luck to those guys, i want to see both of them meet in the Final.
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WITH 7 CARS LEFT IN STK. ELIM.

THERE IS A M/SA & a R/SA that are still in.

Good Luck to those guys, i want to see both of them meet in the Final.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:55 PM   #10
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Default Re: Where are the lower class cars?

I would think guys that run slower cars are more on a budget, and the cost of a NHRA national event is high. I started racing again with the thought of the economy limiting entries, but also with the idea that class wins/singles could defray the cost. Unfortunately NHRA changed that.

I think if a racer can run the index or below, he should be able to go rounds in eliminator if he/she can correctly dial the car and be competitive on the tree.

All you get for class now is a trophy and class points, most aren't going to run for the class points, to many races.

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