Traction Compound

Dan Bernay · 04-08-2012, 10:34 AM

Is it the individual tracks decision on which compound to use or is it mandated by the sanctioning body?
I realize cost is an issue.

Dave Ley · 04-08-2012, 10:37 AM

Track's decision.

Alan Roehrich · 04-08-2012, 10:58 AM

Dave,does that hold true for LODRS races? It seems to me that when NHRA crew is on hand, track prep changes considerably. We see less traction at several tracks when NHRA is there, Reynolds has been a prime example of that at times.

Duster 7695 · 04-08-2012, 11:47 AM

At LORDS races it is up to the track to provide traction compound. At national events NHRA specifies the traction compound so it is the same at all national events.

Raul

Ed Wright · 04-08-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Dave,does that hold true for LODRS races? It seems to me that when NHRA crew is on hand, track prep changes considerably. We see less traction at several tracks when NHRA is there, Reynolds has been a prime example of that at times.

Wow! That's just backwards for Div 4. The track often has a test session on Thrusday evenings before a points race. Pretty much never as good as Friday morning. Many won't "waste their money" (quote) on Thursday testing. The Div 4 crew is very sharp. I just assumed they all were. Learn something every day. LOL

Dave Ley · 04-08-2012, 06:33 PM

In Div. 1 that is how it is done. Our starter makes the call on when touch-ups are done. Track supplies the compound. National Events are complete different animal handled by NHRA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Dave,does that hold true for LODRS races? It seems to me that when NHRA crew is on hand, track prep changes considerably. We see less traction at several tracks when NHRA is there, Reynolds has been a prime example of that at times.

ken robinson · 04-09-2012, 09:38 AM

What have some of the tracks using for the local races last year and what are they planning to use this year ? What is nhra using at natioials ?

Don Kennedy · 04-09-2012, 10:55 AM

As has been my experience for many years the Local tracks use very little traction compound . if the local tracks use any at all it is for the first 20 feet. When You ask them they say hey our cars hook up that run here all the time which is sort of right but the local cars most of the time don't make enough HP to spin as they are bracket cars and don't care . The national events that I have been to this year they have been using VHT and so far the hook is really great . it seems the new Starter gets it although later on in rounds when they is a schedule to be met the lack of track prep is lacking . All a person has to do is look at the bald spots . it seems the starter personnel can't see the bald spots like we can??? don't forget some cars leave soft 8:90. 9;90 and 10;90 cars . Not sure why the even need to do a Burn out ??? Also the clutch cars can slip the clutch .

I no longer pay for a test session at a track as all they do is take the money and say go run without doing one single thing to prep the track. If the track usings VP it does not work

The class cars need a track that is properly prepped to run and it is not right they have to detune the car for a unsafe track at any event . Everyone knows how to set up the car for a bad and unsafe track but should not have to do this . I laugh at the track when I see them using tools to prep the track that have been used 30 years ago . It is time the track decision makers step up and prep their unsafe track so the cars can get down the track before there are less and less cars running at their track oh wait there is less and less cars now I wonder why ???

04-08-2012, 10:34 AM	#1
Dan Bernay Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 391 Likes: 2 Liked 13 Times in 8 Posts	Traction Compound Is it the individual tracks decision on which compound to use or is it mandated by the sanctioning body? I realize cost is an issue.

04-08-2012, 10:37 AM	#2
Dave Ley Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Jersey , The 51st. State Posts: 424 Likes: 1,802 Liked 241 Times in 44 Posts	Re: Traction Compound Track's decision. __________________ Dave Ley

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Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,102 Likes: 1,559 Liked 1,780 Times in 405 Posts	Re: Traction Compound Dave,does that hold true for LODRS races? It seems to me that when NHRA crew is on hand, track prep changes considerably. We see less traction at several tracks when NHRA is there, Reynolds has been a prime example of that at times. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

04-08-2012, 11:47 AM	#4
Duster 7695 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 140 Likes: 1 Liked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Traction Compound At LORDS races it is up to the track to provide traction compound. At national events NHRA specifies the traction compound so it is the same at all national events. Raul

04-09-2012, 09:38 AM	#7
ken robinson Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: tomsriver nj Posts: 477 Likes: 74 Liked 213 Times in 85 Posts	Re: Traction Compound What have some of the tracks using for the local races last year and what are they planning to use this year ? What is nhra using at natioials ?

04-09-2012, 10:55 AM	#8
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 902 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Traction Compound As has been my experience for many years the Local tracks use very little traction compound . if the local tracks use any at all it is for the first 20 feet. When You ask them they say hey our cars hook up that run here all the time which is sort of right but the local cars most of the time don't make enough HP to spin as they are bracket cars and don't care . The national events that I have been to this year they have been using VHT and so far the hook is really great . it seems the new Starter gets it although later on in rounds when they is a schedule to be met the lack of track prep is lacking . All a person has to do is look at the bald spots . it seems the starter personnel can't see the bald spots like we can??? don't forget some cars leave soft 8:90. 9;90 and 10;90 cars . Not sure why the even need to do a Burn out ??? Also the clutch cars can slip the clutch . I no longer pay for a test session at a track as all they do is take the money and say go run without doing one single thing to prep the track. If the track usings VP it does not work The class cars need a track that is properly prepped to run and it is not right they have to detune the car for a unsafe track at any event . Everyone knows how to set up the car for a bad and unsafe track but should not have to do this . I laugh at the track when I see them using tools to prep the track that have been used 30 years ago . It is time the track decision makers step up and prep their unsafe track so the cars can get down the track before there are less and less cars running at their track oh wait there is less and less cars now I wonder why ??? __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS Last edited by Don Kennedy; 04-09-2012 at 12:22 PM.