Video at NHRA events

Michael Beard · 09-20-2012, 10:45 PM

Everybody see NHRA's note posted today on video at events?
http://www.nhradiv3.com/apcm/templat...2627&zoneid=18

Bob Emery · 09-20-2012, 11:14 PM

Not to start a s***storm, but since there is so minimal "corporate/mainstream" broadcasting currently available of stock and superstock racing, the only decent source for video is what you racers post. Within the big corporate realm, what am I missing?

I love the videos you folks post!

Bernie Cunningham · 09-21-2012, 12:13 AM

WANKERS!!

What if a fan posts that has a restricted area pass or even from the stands?

What's the penalty here or if it's a racer doing it? I got in trouble a fews years back with me 'hood cam' in Sonoma, (everybody loved that one) then it got put into the rule book the next year condemning video?????? At the time I was told it conflicted with ESPN, I said, well show some real action from the Sportsman, obviously corporate BS!!!

Lew Silverman · 09-21-2012, 12:34 AM

So exactly what does this mean -

The NHRA Rulebook, section 1.9 and 1.10, pages 25-26, cover this and related subjects. To sum it up, shooting video at the track other than for competition/analytical purposes is strictly prohibited.

If I read this correctly, I can take video of MY vehicle for competition or analytical purposes, as long as I follow section 1.9 and 1.10 of the rule book, but I can't share it with any one. Does that about sum it up?

"Any reuse or retransmission of any video taken at Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series events without the express written permission of the NHRA is strictly prohibited!"

Rollins_2241 · 09-21-2012, 08:35 AM

Translation: our most valuable franchise asset is racing footage. YouTube is a mortal threat to that asset. Don't you dare put your video on there.

Very smart move to get ahead of this in the age of everyone with GoPros posting "extreme in-car" footage and the like. From a corporate sense, I mean.

No different than the NFL, same business model. Footage pays off forever, the gate money is one and done.

Bobby Fazio · 09-21-2012, 09:11 AM

Come on don't we have any lawyer racers on here? Sportsman video is video footage of racers who paid an entry fee to be there so in turn, shouldn't you need the racer's permission to video instead of sanctioning body? How can it be proven that all who watch the youtube videos aren't watching them for analytic purpose? The videographer (is that a word?) posting the videos is not getting paid by youtube so he is not really doing anything wrong?

We aren't taking precious footage of the full throttle series so go ahead and sell that crap on DVD. Maybe they know my DVR can't keep up with sportsman racing because high school girls lacrosse gets broadcast over half the episode it so I am forced to purchase! Very-well, I'll give you 50 cents for the last 2 minutes of each sportsman broadcast. Send me my dvd!

On the other hand, the "broadcasting services" webpage they posted hasn't been updated since 2006 so I guess they figured they needed a quick new way to make some dough and some eager exec came through.

It's not too late ---> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/n...tsmancoverage/

09-20-2012, 10:45 PM	#1
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Video at NHRA events Everybody see NHRA's note posted today on video at events? http://www.nhradiv3.com/apcm/templat...2627&zoneid=18 __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

09-20-2012, 11:14 PM	#2
Bob Emery Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marysville, WA Posts: 90 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Video at NHRA events Not to start a s***storm, but since there is so minimal "corporate/mainstream" broadcasting currently available of stock and superstock racing, the only decent source for video is what you racers post. Within the big corporate realm, what am I missing? I love the videos you folks post!

09-21-2012, 12:13 AM	#3
Bernie Cunningham Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 560 Likes: 45 Liked 52 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Video at NHRA events WANKERS!! What if a fan posts that has a restricted area pass or even from the stands? What's the penalty here or if it's a racer doing it? I got in trouble a fews years back with me 'hood cam' in Sonoma, (everybody loved that one) then it got put into the rule book the next year condemning video?????? At the time I was told it conflicted with ESPN, I said, well show some real action from the Sportsman, obviously corporate BS!!! __________________ Bernie Cunningham 7053 STK

09-21-2012, 12:34 AM	#4
Lew Silverman VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,435 Likes: 371 Liked 129 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Video at NHRA events So exactly what does this mean - The NHRA Rulebook, section 1.9 and 1.10, pages 25-26, cover this and related subjects. To sum it up, shooting video at the track other than for competition/analytical purposes is strictly prohibited. If I read this correctly, I can take video of MY vehicle for competition or analytical purposes, as long as I follow section 1.9 and 1.10 of the rule book, but I can't share it with any one. Does that about sum it up? "Any reuse or retransmission of any video taken at Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series events without the express written permission of the NHRA is strictly prohibited!" __________________ Lew Silverman #2070 "The Wagon Master" N/SA

09-21-2012, 08:35 AM	#5
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Video at NHRA events Translation: our most valuable franchise asset is racing footage. YouTube is a mortal threat to that asset. Don't you dare put your video on there. Very smart move to get ahead of this in the age of everyone with GoPros posting "extreme in-car" footage and the like. From a corporate sense, I mean. No different than the NFL, same business model. Footage pays off forever, the gate money is one and done.

09-21-2012, 09:11 AM	#6
Bobby Fazio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Egg Harbor Township, NJ Posts: 1,468 Likes: 1,448 Liked 4,365 Times in 501 Posts	Re: Video at NHRA events Come on don't we have any lawyer racers on here? Sportsman video is video footage of racers who paid an entry fee to be there so in turn, shouldn't you need the racer's permission to video instead of sanctioning body? How can it be proven that all who watch the youtube videos aren't watching them for analytic purpose? The videographer (is that a word?) posting the videos is not getting paid by youtube so he is not really doing anything wrong? We aren't taking precious footage of the full throttle series so go ahead and sell that crap on DVD. Maybe they know my DVR can't keep up with sportsman racing because high school girls lacrosse gets broadcast over half the episode it so I am forced to purchase! Very-well, I'll give you 50 cents for the last 2 minutes of each sportsman broadcast. Send me my dvd! On the other hand, the "broadcasting services" webpage they posted hasn't been updated since 2006 so I guess they figured they needed a quick new way to make some dough and some eager exec came through. It's not too late ---> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/n...tsmancoverage/ __________________ '65 Mustang SS/L & L/SA DriverInterviews.com \| App.DragInsights.com Last edited by Bobby Fazio; 09-21-2012 at 09:25 AM.