1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}

Paul Ceasrine · 03-10-2013, 01:38 PM

1966 NHRA put together the Top Stock Eliminator for National Events.

Does anybody remember the cars that fit each class.

If memory serves me correctly.

S/S and S/SA
* 1965 Plymouth 'Race Hemi'
* 1965 Dodge 'Race Hemi'
* 1964 Plymouth 'Race Hemi'
* 1964 Dodge 'Race Hemi'

* 1966 Ford Fairlane 500 'R-Code' 427

AA/S and AA/SA
* 1964 Plymouth '426 Max-Wedge
* 1964 Dodge '426 Max-Wedge'
* 1963 Plymouth '426 Super Stock'
* 1963 Dodge '426 Ramcharger'
* 1962 Plymouth '413 Super Stock'
* 1962 Dodge '413 Ramcharger'

A/S and A/SA
* 1966 Plymouth 'Street Hemi'
* 1966 Dodge 'Street Hemi'

* 1966 Chevrolet - Chevy Nova SS 'L-79' - {327/350 HP}

* 1964 Ford Galaxie 'Lightweight' - {427/425 HP}

* 1963 Chevrolet Impala 'Z-11 Lightweight' - [409/425 HP}

* 1961 Pontiac Ventura 'SD-421' 'Lightweight' - {421/405 HP}

B/S and B/SA
* 1963 Plymouth Station Wagon '426 Super Stock' - {426/415 HP 'non' Ram-Air}
* 1963 Dodge Station Wagon '426 Ramcharger' - {426/415 HP 'non' Ram-Air}

* 1964 Plymouth Belvedere '426 Street-Wedge'
* 1964 Dodge Coronet '426 Street-Wedge'

* 1966 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu SS 396 - {396/375 HP}
* 1966 Chevrolet Biscayne - 427/425 HP
* 1965 Chevrlolet Biscayne - 409/400 HP
* 1964 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/425HP
* 1963 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/425 HP
* 1962 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/409 HP

* 1966 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP
* 1965 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP
* 1964 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP
* 1963 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP

Dwight Southerland · 03-10-2013, 03:41 PM

What about the '64 lightweight Galaxies and the '64 Thunderbolts?

Paul Ceasrine · 03-10-2013, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

What about the '64 lightweight Galaxies and the '64 Thunderbolts?

Sorry about that Dwight,,,,,,,

I think it went like this for 1966

A/FX or A/MP
* 1964 Ford Thunderbolt

* 1963 Chevrolet Impala 'Z-11' 409/425 HP

Paul Ceasrine · 03-11-2013, 08:51 AM

1966 Super Stock Magazine Nationals
(New York National Speedway)

Top Photo
A/S........Bill 'Grumpy' Jenkins - 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS - {327/350 HP}
B/S........Tom Kerr - 1966 Chevelle Malibu SS 396 - {396/375 HP}

Middle Photo
B/S.......409/409 HP - 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne
A/SA....427/425 HP - 1964 Ford Galaxie 'Lightweight'

Bottom Left Photo
C/S.......389/360 HP - 1966 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power'
B/SA.....426/415 HP - 1963 Dodge Station Wagon '426 Ramcharger'

Bottom Right Photo
B/S........409/409 HP- 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne
B/S........389/348 HP - 1964 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power'

Paul Ceasrine · 03-11-2013, 10:25 AM

What the Top Car's were running in 1966.

S/S...........11.30's
S/SA........11.30's

AA/S.........11.80's
AA/SA......12.00's

A/S............12.20's
A/SA.........12.50's

B/S............12.60's
B/SA..........12.90's

C/S.............12.80's
C/SA...........13.10's

D/S..............13.10's
D/SA...........13.60's

'AA/SA' in 1966 (1963 Dodge '426 Ramcharger'; Gramatan Dodge, Mt. Vernon, New York)

Paul Ceasrine · 03-11-2013, 12:29 PM

Is this what you were talking about.

(1966 Photo).

Paul Ceasrine · 05-14-2013, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

1966 Super Stock Magazine Nationals
(New York National Speedway)

Top Photo
A/S........Bill 'Grumpy' Jenkins - 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS - {327/350 HP}
B/S........Tom Kerr - 1966 Chevelle Malibu SS 396 - {396/375 HP}

Middle Photo
B/S.......409/409 HP - 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne
A/SA....427/425 HP - 1964 Ford Galaxie 'Lightweight'

Bottom Left Photo
C/S.......389/360 HP - 1966 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power'
B/SA.....426/415 HP - 1963 Dodge Station Wagon '426 Ramcharger'

Bottom Right Photo
B/S........409/409 HP- 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne
B/S........389/348 HP - 1964 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power'

This is from Super Stock and Drag Illustrated (November 1966)

Tom Kerr........................(East Liverpool, Ohio)
Martin Chevrolet........... (Warren, Ohio)
B/S Class Record.........12.20 @ 117 MPH

Tom Kerr was Runner-Up to Bill Jenkoins in Top Stock Eliminator.

Tom Kerr also won the B/S Class at the 1966 Indy Nationals by running a 12.33 in the B/S Class Final.

bigsixman · 05-14-2013, 10:58 AM

Paul: Chevrolet did not make a 1965 409/425 motor for production cars. The 409/400 was the largest "W" motor that year. The "W" 409/400 and the 409/340 were phased out midyear and the 396/325 and the 396/425 and the limited chevelle only Z16 396/375 were to replace the two "W" 409 motors.

Rat Patrol · 04-21-2021, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

What about the '64 lightweight Galaxies and the '64 Thunderbolts?

Source texts say that all Fiberglass and aluminum lightweight Stockers were banned from Stock in 1965. They were re-admitted in 1968.

Records show the MW and LW Galaxies still made an impression in A/Stock and B/Stock. I think most T Bolts had been ‘altered’ by 68.

DeuceCoupe · 01-26-2025, 01:27 PM

Paul C started some great old threads.

I found this cuz I'm suddenly hunting for info on if the 63 Chev Z11 427/430hp was ever NHRA legal in S/S or AA/S, does anybody know?

I've heard not enough built, but by end 63 there were 50 or 57 built, same as the 64 HiRiser Galaxie and those ran NHRA legal AA/S=7.00 class from mid-1964 on.

Even if factored as high as 470hp, the Z-11 would still fit in AA/S at the NHRA weight I have of 3341 lb

So why dont we see any Z-11s in S/S or AA/S?

03-10-2013, 01:38 PM	#1
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA} 1966 NHRA put together the Top Stock Eliminator for National Events. Does anybody remember the cars that fit each class. If memory serves me correctly. S/S and S/SA * 1965 Plymouth 'Race Hemi' * 1965 Dodge 'Race Hemi' * 1964 Plymouth 'Race Hemi' * 1964 Dodge 'Race Hemi' * 1966 Ford Fairlane 500 'R-Code' 427 AA/S and AA/SA * 1964 Plymouth '426 Max-Wedge * 1964 Dodge '426 Max-Wedge' * 1963 Plymouth '426 Super Stock' * 1963 Dodge '426 Ramcharger' * 1962 Plymouth '413 Super Stock' * 1962 Dodge '413 Ramcharger' A/S and A/SA * 1966 Plymouth 'Street Hemi' * 1966 Dodge 'Street Hemi' * 1966 Chevrolet - Chevy Nova SS 'L-79' - {327/350 HP} * 1964 Ford Galaxie 'Lightweight' - {427/425 HP} * 1963 Chevrolet Impala 'Z-11 Lightweight' - [409/425 HP} * 1961 Pontiac Ventura 'SD-421' 'Lightweight' - {421/405 HP} B/S and B/SA * 1963 Plymouth Station Wagon '426 Super Stock' - {426/415 HP 'non' Ram-Air} * 1963 Dodge Station Wagon '426 Ramcharger' - {426/415 HP 'non' Ram-Air} * 1964 Plymouth Belvedere '426 Street-Wedge' * 1964 Dodge Coronet '426 Street-Wedge' * 1966 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu SS 396 - {396/375 HP} * 1966 Chevrolet Biscayne - 427/425 HP * 1965 Chevrlolet Biscayne - 409/400 HP * 1964 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/425HP * 1963 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/425 HP * 1962 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/409 HP * 1966 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP * 1965 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP * 1964 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP * 1963 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 05-14-2013 at 11:27 AM.

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,999 Likes: 64 Liked 772 Times in 192 Posts	Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA} What about the '64 lightweight Galaxies and the '64 Thunderbolts?

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Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA} 1966 Super Stock Magazine Nationals (New York National Speedway) Top Photo A/S........Bill 'Grumpy' Jenkins - 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS - {327/350 HP} B/S........Tom Kerr - 1966 Chevelle Malibu SS 396 - {396/375 HP} Middle Photo B/S.......409/409 HP - 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne A/SA....427/425 HP - 1964 Ford Galaxie 'Lightweight' Bottom Left Photo C/S.......389/360 HP - 1966 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power' B/SA.....426/415 HP - 1963 Dodge Station Wagon '426 Ramcharger' Bottom Right Photo B/S........409/409 HP- 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne B/S........389/348 HP - 1964 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power' Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 03-11-2013 at 06:30 PM.

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Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA} What the Top Car's were running in 1966. S/S...........11.30's S/SA........11.30's AA/S.........11.80's AA/SA......12.00's A/S............12.20's A/SA.........12.50's B/S............12.60's B/SA..........12.90's C/S.............12.80's C/SA...........13.10's D/S..............13.10's D/SA...........13.60's 'AA/SA' in 1966 (1963 Dodge '426 Ramcharger'; Gramatan Dodge, Mt. Vernon, New York) Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 03-11-2013 at 10:48 AM.

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Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA} Is this what you were talking about. (1966 Photo).

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bigsixman Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Crookston, MN Posts: 157 Likes: 8 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA} Paul: Chevrolet did not make a 1965 409/425 motor for production cars. The 409/400 was the largest "W" motor that year. The "W" 409/400 and the 409/340 were phased out midyear and the 396/325 and the 396/425 and the limited chevelle only Z16 396/375 were to replace the two "W" 409 motors. __________________ 1969 camaro, pump gas 540"bbc, jerico 1967 camaro, pump gas efi 620", coan t-400

01-26-2025, 01:27 PM	#10
DeuceCoupe Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 274 Likes: 98 Liked 48 Times in 44 Posts	Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA} Paul C started some great old threads. I found this cuz I'm suddenly hunting for info on if the 63 Chev Z11 427/430hp was ever NHRA legal in S/S or AA/S, does anybody know? I've heard not enough built, but by end 63 there were 50 or 57 built, same as the 64 HiRiser Galaxie and those ran NHRA legal AA/S=7.00 class from mid-1964 on. Even if factored as high as 470hp, the Z-11 would still fit in AA/S at the NHRA weight I have of 3341 lb So why dont we see any Z-11s in S/S or AA/S?