The MSD Grid System

Charlie Yannetti · 06-12-2017, 10:52 AM

Just throwing this out there, and not actually pointing any fingers, YET.. we have all heard about the infamous Cheater Grid, and how it will give you almost perfect runs on a consistent basis.. I believe this system should be banned in NHRA Super Class racing, as it has already been banned in many bracket venues..

I brought this up to a NHRA Tech Inspector this weekend at E-Town, and I was told that NHRA is, in fact, monitoring the performance of many racers, and that they do have a tester to pick up on any illegal set-ups...

My question is two fold.. does this testing take place AFTER a racer has won a race, or a Championship, of does it take place during the, now non-existent, tech inspection at every race??... OR, does it take place at all, and is it determined on who you just may be??.. politics in drag racing??.. say it isn't so..

THOUGHTS???

Keith 944 · 06-12-2017, 11:04 AM

I have been checked twice, last year it was after 1st rnd at E-town. This year after 1st time run at Atlanta. They are checking for the use of the arc module. Like any other electronic device, some will take advantage of whatever they can to win.

Lenny5160 · 06-12-2017, 03:19 PM

Is the Grid with ARC module any different than running the 7531 digital box with slew control?

There are always illegal products out there; why does the Grid in particular get such a bad reputation for this?

voltdr · 06-12-2017, 05:04 PM

The MSD 7531 is ILLEGAL for NHRA racing.
Dan

Lenny5160 · 06-12-2017, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voltdr

The MSD 7531 is ILLEGAL for NHRA racing.
Dan

Yes, and it should be an item checked for in tech or random inspections, just like the Grid's ARC module should be.

I don't recall anyone calling for all Digital 7 boxes to be banned because it could be a 7531, yet I hear a lot of calls for the entire Grid system to be banned.

Charlie Yannetti · 06-13-2017, 07:21 AM

I don't claim to be a computer whiz kid, and don't think that a lap top should be tuning your race car either.. buy from what I'm hearing, the "Cheater Grid" can be programmed to provide an unfair advantage almost EVERY run.. just hit the tree, and you're on a 90 pass..

This was brought to my attention a while back, but it's now come to the fore front at several National Events...

Don't get me wrong, there are great drivers out there, with great cars.. but give those great drivers an additional advantage, and the rest of us might just as well stay home..

voltdr · 06-13-2017, 10:48 AM

[QUOTE=Lenny5160;537193]Yes, and it should be an item checked for in tech or random inspections, just like the Grid's ARC module should be.

I agree. I had a D4 tech inspector looking at my delay box one time and asked why? He said he was making sure it was on the approved list. I told him he needs to be checking the digital boxes instead. He looked at me me like I was speaking a foreign language.

Dan Foley

06-12-2017, 10:52 AM	#1
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 566 Likes: 187 Liked 191 Times in 82 Posts	The MSD Grid System Just throwing this out there, and not actually pointing any fingers, YET.. we have all heard about the infamous Cheater Grid, and how it will give you almost perfect runs on a consistent basis.. I believe this system should be banned in NHRA Super Class racing, as it has already been banned in many bracket venues.. I brought this up to a NHRA Tech Inspector this weekend at E-Town, and I was told that NHRA is, in fact, monitoring the performance of many racers, and that they do have a tester to pick up on any illegal set-ups... My question is two fold.. does this testing take place AFTER a racer has won a race, or a Championship, of does it take place during the, now non-existent, tech inspection at every race??... OR, does it take place at all, and is it determined on who you just may be??.. politics in drag racing??.. say it isn't so.. THOUGHTS???

06-12-2017, 11:04 AM	#2
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,184 Likes: 1,143 Liked 1,854 Times in 573 Posts	Re: The MSD Grid System I have been checked twice, last year it was after 1st rnd at E-town. This year after 1st time run at Atlanta. They are checking for the use of the arc module. Like any other electronic device, some will take advantage of whatever they can to win. __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2-1/2 X somebody Still many X nobody

06-12-2017, 03:19 PM	#3
Lenny5160 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Inver Grove Heights, MN Posts: 898 Likes: 604 Liked 431 Times in 224 Posts	Re: The MSD Grid System Is the Grid with ARC module any different than running the 7531 digital box with slew control? There are always illegal products out there; why does the Grid in particular get such a bad reputation for this? __________________ S/ST 51 S/C 53

06-12-2017, 05:04 PM	#4
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 705 Likes: 77 Liked 97 Times in 50 Posts	Re: The MSD Grid System The MSD 7531 is ILLEGAL for NHRA racing. Dan

06-13-2017, 07:21 AM	#6
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 566 Likes: 187 Liked 191 Times in 82 Posts	Re: The MSD Grid System I don't claim to be a computer whiz kid, and don't think that a lap top should be tuning your race car either.. buy from what I'm hearing, the "Cheater Grid" can be programmed to provide an unfair advantage almost EVERY run.. just hit the tree, and you're on a 90 pass.. This was brought to my attention a while back, but it's now come to the fore front at several National Events... Don't get me wrong, there are great drivers out there, with great cars.. but give those great drivers an additional advantage, and the rest of us might just as well stay home..

06-13-2017, 10:48 AM	#7
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 705 Likes: 77 Liked 97 Times in 50 Posts	Re: The MSD Grid System [QUOTE=Lenny5160;537193]Yes, and it should be an item checked for in tech or random inspections, just like the Grid's ARC module should be. I agree. I had a D4 tech inspector looking at my delay box one time and asked why? He said he was making sure it was on the approved list. I told him he needs to be checking the digital boxes instead. He looked at me me like I was speaking a foreign language. Dan Foley