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Old 09-26-2007, 09:27 PM   #1
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Thumbs up hey len !!!!

Hey Len ,,did,nt hear back fron you on my post about throwing the fuel---injection cars back in with us carburated car,s, think this need,s soom explanatoin ???? like i stated earlier how about the aro-dynanic,s, the E -shift ect.. ? WE WENT THROUGH THIS BEFORE ,, WHAT MAKES NHRA THINK THIS WILL BE FAIR NOW WHEN IT WAS,NT AND THEY SPIT IT UP BEFORE ????? MAKE,S ME SCRATCH MY A?? AND WONDER .... DENNIS DUNLAP J/SA SSGT/MA
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:26 PM   #2
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I have ran 3 carb cars,,,and 3 fuel injected cars,,,,it depends on the combo,,,,,,,,2 of the 3 FI cars were greated affected by bad air and elevation,,,, 2 of the carb cars were not,,,,,,1 was drasticly,,,,,,1 carb car slowed down over .50 running it at 100 degrees water temp and 65 degrees outside at an actual elevation of 300ft,,,,,,,,to 140 water temp,,,,80 degrees outside temp,,,,,,,,


on the other hand ,,had an oldsmobile that woundnt slow down but .02 from an outside temp of 65 up to 85 outside temp

the statement of Fi cars not moving around in et is not exactly correct,,,,the camaro, which had the f.a.s.t. system wouldnt move around hardly any if the A/F ratio was set to a lean condition,,,,,BUT,,,,the cavalier would change if it THOUGHT the outside temp would drop,,,,,so that like comparing apples and oranges

now,, the mustang ( FI) would run 8.3`s at the rock and 8.8`s at bristol,,,,,while the olds (CARB) would run 8.0`s at the rock and 8.1`s at bristol,,,,,

just depends on combo,,,,I wouldnt depend on that reason to justify not combining classes
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:40 PM   #3
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Cool Re: hey len !!!!

Well here is a thought on FI vs Carb........

The GT/MA record just got set.....10.66 with a '95 Chev FI 265 cu in

Now, how fast in GT/MA with a '55 Chev Carb 265 cu in ??
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:32 AM   #4
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Well, ya "hadtobethere" to see the lil' 265 FI sucker run. Fast piece!

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Old 09-27-2007, 01:23 AM   #5
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1 1352 B/SA Bill Hawk, Manassas VA, '67 Shelby 10.092 11.55 -1.458
2 1441 A/S Richard Adkins, Willingboro NJ, '67 Shelby 9.867 11.30 -1.433

From MIR this spring. These guys can keep up with the FI if they want to, but most are scared of the slap on the wrist.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:06 AM   #6
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1 1352 B/SA Bill Hawk, Manassas VA, '67 Shelby 10.092 11.55 -1.458
2 1441 A/S Richard Adkins, Willingboro NJ, '67 Shelby 9.867 11.30 -1.433

From MIR this spring. These guys can keep up with the FI if they want to, but most are scared of the slap on the wrist.
great example...but those arent stockers...they are modified production!!
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:32 AM   #7
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If the carb cars are going to run with the injected cars wouldn't it be reasonable to put a realistic weight on the late model cars? Compare a 1968 Camaro stocker which weighs very close to the real shipping weight to a 1988 Camaro that is at least 400 pounds lighter than the REAL weight of shipping. How the weights got out of control is not a big deal until the 68 with it's obvious disadvantages has to run heads up.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:12 PM   #8
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Len , Thank you for your reply. I would like to suggest this: The only way this is going to work is to count all rounds of class eliminations, and do it about four times a year.
Can you tell us what the new AHFS trigger will be? Giving us .05 to play with and making it 1 second under would be a step in the right direction.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:25 PM   #9
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Len ,Thanks for yor reply i must say i don,t agree with all of what you said, or nhra,s view on throwing us all back together, i guess time will tell !!!!! I still remember distictly what those new camaros and firbird,s tailight look like from years past .... thank,s dennis j/sa
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:15 AM   #10
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If I counted correctly, at the memphis race,,,counting Fi with carb cars,,,AND if they hadnt changed classes,,,there was going to be 39 cars from A/SA to E/SA,,,,,,,,who ever is favor of heads up runs are going to get what they wanted....thats 39 out of 78
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