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Old 08-09-2020, 08:25 AM   #1
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Driver A and driver B are involved in a non heads up round of competition. Driver B is the slower dialed car and red lights. Driver A rightfully gets the winning ET slip. However driver A is found to be 45 pounds light at the scales. Driver B is then asked to scale and found to be legal weight. Which driver should move on to the next round?
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:28 AM   #2
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I believe both are DQ'd. Next round is a competition bye for whoever is on the ladder. I wonder what happens if that was the final round.
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:29 AM   #3
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Driver B should be reinstated
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:36 AM   #4
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Driver B red is less of a infraction. Same as if driver A cross center or hit the wall
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:59 AM   #5
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This happened to my dad several years ago. He was asked to come to the scales, fuel checked then reinstated.
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:50 AM   #6
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I think it used to be call first or worst infraction is out.
In that case Marty presented both would be out.
I have had it happen to me in Modified at an IHRA race.
Have no idea how it is interpreted these days.
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Driver A and driver B are involved in a non heads up round of competition. Driver B is the slower dialed car and red lights. Driver A rightfully gets the winning ET slip. However driver A is found to be 45 pounds light at the scales. Driver B is then asked to scale and found to be legal weight. Which driver should move on to the next round?

First or worst. As long as the red lighting car waited at the scales to verify that the other car was legal, I would expect that the red lighting car is reinstated., it the red lighting car went back to the pits, it leaves a little uncertainty from my view.
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:25 PM   #8
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I can tell you from past experience they don't always do that. I redlighted during a Saturday night round at the Gators many years ago.
Opponent drove by scales and fuel check. I pulled up and waited by the scales for 1 hour, thats right1 hour while they completed the rest of the rounds that night. A div 1 tech official went and found the guy on his way out of the track, a Div 1 racer. Not sure if that influenced it or not. He then brought the car to the scales and weighed,fuel check had long closed. After they went in the trailer and discussed it Jim Skelley said Steve Gibbs told him to forget it. Same situation for Greg Rowe except David Simmons told him he wouldn't come weigh because he could not win a heads up run the next round. Greg went on to win the race the next day and I always ask him since then if we are having buy backs at the race. Not the only time had bad decisions made I didn't agree with. But it is their ballpark and their rules like them or not. I just assumed they didn't like rednecks lol.
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So is the precedent: a red light is worse than being light at the scales?
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Old 08-10-2020, 01:09 PM   #10
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So is the precedent: a red light is worse than being light at the scales?
When he staged the was not legal to race...

The red light came after the illegal car staged..

Staging while not at legal weight was the first infraction...
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