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Old 08-26-2021, 06:21 PM   #1
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Default Spark Plug Heat ranges, what gains have you made?

I run a turbo car with a enhanced tune.
Boost is 16.5psi now from 14.1psi.

I have tried all variations of VP UNLEADED RACE fuel.

I find it difficult to see a performance difference in any as opposed to Costco fuel with VP octane booster.

I do have data that leans toward when I use VP C9 or MS101 AND BRACKET RACE THE CAR IS MORE CONSISTANT, EASIER TO DIAL.

I digress, my goal is to gain more from a colder plug than standard plug.

The NGK codest plug is 3 heat ranges colder than my stock plug.

I think it will be worth a tenth in my vehicle.

Thanks in advance for your input.
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Old 08-27-2021, 08:18 AM   #2
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Default Re: Spark Plug Heat ranges, what gains have you made?

You think there is a tenth only from the plug change?



This may not be the best forum for a turbo charged question but there are a bunch of really smart guys on here.
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Default Re: Spark Plug Heat ranges, what gains have you made?

Enlighten me.
I'm not up on boost terms, but what is an enhanced tune?
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Old 08-27-2021, 02:05 PM   #4
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Default Re: Spark Plug Heat ranges, what gains have you made?

I think there may be a small improvement in performance
if the engine is running in or on the edge of detonation.
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Old 08-27-2021, 02:11 PM   #5
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Default Re: Spark Plug Heat ranges, what gains have you made?

All reason to go faster with correct plug on nitrous is having the wrong plug and torching electrode.
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Old 08-27-2021, 03:08 PM   #6
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Default Re: Spark Plug Heat ranges, what gains have you made?

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Enlighten me.
I'm not up on boost terms, but what is an enhanced tune?
Enhanced tune for my vehicle is, running ignition Timing right on the edge of pre ignition.
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Old 08-27-2021, 03:18 PM   #7
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Default Re: Spark Plug Heat ranges, what gains have you made?

I also forgot to mention the colder plugs vs the standard plugs give me a full CC less combustion chamber volume.
This increases static combustion ratio, almost always positive.

I feel like stockers should be able to submit their own spark plugs to compliment the shape of their combustion chambers, just like people submitting their own piston variations in Stock.

Btw...
Has anybody been caught moving their piston pin offset/location in Stock yet?

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Old 08-27-2021, 03:59 PM   #8
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Default Re: Spark Plug Heat ranges, what gains have you made?

A wrist pin offset normally is 0.060" to 0.080". When people reverse the wrist pin offset (do people still do this in stock?) this moves the pin center line 0.120" to 0.160" they may see a very small difference. Lets look at a 0.060" reverse and we a talking a little under 1 degree change in Piston TDC to crank journal TDC

Bore = 4.0 Stroke = 3.25 Rod Length = 5.7
Actual Piston Stroke 3.25019600382
Cylinder Volume 40.843168 CI 669.299602 cc
Engine Size 326.745340 CI 5354.396814 cc

Wrist Pin Offset = 0.06
Crank Angle Piston TDC -0.46932221356 Piston BDC 179.15635067565

Wrist Pin Offset = -0.06
Crank Angle Piston TDC 0.46932221356 Piston BDC 180.84364932435

Where you can really see a difference is with an inline motorcycle engine where the crank line has been moved 10 mm.

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Old 09-01-2021, 09:12 PM   #9
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Enhanced tune for my vehicle is, running ignition Timing right on the edge of pre ignition.
"on the edge of pre ignition" ?? Detonation and pre ignition are two very different things. Pretty sure you meant detonation.
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Old 09-01-2021, 09:51 PM   #10
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"on the edge of pre ignition" ?? Detonation and pre ignition are two very different things. Pretty sure you meant detonation.
No Bruce, it's a TURBO car, high Combustion pressure.

Turbo cars have a tendency to have low speed Pre ignition with much higher Combustion pressure....

But, I am here to gather ideas and have looked further into detonation.
I can see how they can be confused with one another.
Thank you for the response.

I do look forward to the NGK heat range 9 plug to test.

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