Which Eliminators contain Class Racers?

Greg Gay · 02-17-2025, 12:59 PM

These eliminators include Classes, hence Class Racers:
Comp
Super Stock
Stock

These eliminators are not Class Racers:
Top Fuel
Funny Car
Pro Stock
Pro Mod
T/AD
TA/FC
T/D
T/S
S/C
S/G
S/ST

GUMP · 02-17-2025, 01:01 PM

I'm not sure that my list would include Competition Eliminator.

JP1738 · 02-17-2025, 03:53 PM

If you compete in NHRA Divs/Nats in any class, you are a class racer in my view. Note, this is a self serving opinion because I considered myself a class racer before building a Stocker when I ran S/ST and S/G.

I'm fine if S/SS gets it's own name or takes over class racing and we give another name to all the other nationally contested classes, I just don't know what that name would be.

1320racer · 02-17-2025, 04:01 PM

Of course you are a class racer and so is every racer that competes in every class contested at LODRS events.

GUMP · 02-17-2025, 04:17 PM

Class Racers run qualified fields based on performance and have heads-up runs.

All of us run a "class". Even bracket racers....

JP1738 · 02-17-2025, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP

Class Racers run qualified fields based on performance and have heads-up runs.

All of us run a "class". Even bracket racers....

I can live with and respect the opinion. Do we give a name to other NHRA class participants? And what would it be? Is it different from Bracket racing/outlaw index racing?

Don Eckel 111 · 02-17-2025, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP

I'm not sure that my list would include Competition Eliminator.

Now wait one cotton picking minute on this one!

JGrossijr · 02-17-2025, 10:19 PM

Eliminators with multiple classifications and performance indexes within the same category utilizing a handicap start system.

Mike Pearson · 02-18-2025, 10:30 AM

Here is my take.
Class racers have a specific set of rules that you have to follow. Body type, engine type, weight, tire size etc. no delay boxes. HC start. Set indexes and qualified order

Bracket racers have mostly only safety rules to follow. Any body, engine and weight. TS and TD might have a min weight. delay boxes and power adders. Random pairing

Index racers have weight and index rules that have to be followed. Any engine, body, specific weights, throttle stops delay boxes. Heads up start. Random pair round one. set indexes

Pro and Semi Pro also have specific rules that have to be followed. engine size and chassis type, weight, fuel type, pro tree

Stock, SS and Comp are class racers
TS and TD are bracket racers
SG,SC and S/St are index racers
Pro Mod, TAD and TAFC are semi pro (technically Sportsman)
TF,FC, Pro Stock, Pro stock MC are professional classes

Paul Merolla · 02-18-2025, 01:04 PM

The terms, "Class" and "Category" get mixed up and misused all the time, which leads to a lot of this confusion on what a Class racer is.
Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro Stock, Pro Stock Motorcycle, Top Alcohol, Top Dragster, Top Sportsman, Comp Eliminator, Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas, Super Street are all Categories. Not Classes.
A/S, G/SA, SS/D, GT/HA, A/SM, D/ED etc., are Classes within their Category. If you race in a Class, you are a Class racer. Period, end of story.

02-17-2025, 12:59 PM	#1
Greg Gay Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 385 Likes: 21 Liked 283 Times in 70 Posts	Which Eliminators contain Class Racers? These eliminators include Classes, hence Class Racers: Comp Super Stock Stock These eliminators are not Class Racers: Top Fuel Funny Car Pro Stock Pro Mod T/AD TA/FC T/D T/S S/C S/G S/ST

02-17-2025, 01:01 PM	#2
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,823 Likes: 2,166 Liked 2,354 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Which Eliminators contain Class Racers? I'm not sure that my list would include Competition Eliminator. __________________ Daren Poole-Adams NHRA Stock/SS 2007

02-17-2025, 03:53 PM	#3
JP1738 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2024 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 566 Likes: 1,614 Liked 1,173 Times in 333 Posts	Re: Which Eliminators contain Class Racers? If you compete in NHRA Divs/Nats in any class, you are a class racer in my view. Note, this is a self serving opinion because I considered myself a class racer before building a Stocker when I ran S/ST and S/G. I'm fine if S/SS gets it's own name or takes over class racing and we give another name to all the other nationally contested classes, I just don't know what that name would be. __________________ Dawson Pauley #2827 N/SA 1980 Malibu SW 2S 305/180 #2827 S/ST 1978 Mazda RX7 w/ 383 sbc/glide

02-17-2025, 04:01 PM	#4
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Which Eliminators contain Class Racers? Of course you are a class racer and so is every racer that competes in every class contested at LODRS events.

02-17-2025, 04:17 PM	#5
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,823 Likes: 2,166 Liked 2,354 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Which Eliminators contain Class Racers? Class Racers run qualified fields based on performance and have heads-up runs. All of us run a "class". Even bracket racers.... __________________ Daren Poole-Adams NHRA Stock/SS 2007

02-17-2025, 10:19 PM	#8
JGrossijr Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Brentwood, California Posts: 98 Likes: 377 Liked 460 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Which Eliminators contain Class Racers? Eliminators with multiple classifications and performance indexes within the same category utilizing a handicap start system. __________________ Jim Grossi SS 7856

02-18-2025, 10:30 AM	#9
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,447 Likes: 615 Liked 1,923 Times in 578 Posts	Re: Which Eliminators contain Class Racers? Here is my take. Class racers have a specific set of rules that you have to follow. Body type, engine type, weight, tire size etc. no delay boxes. HC start. Set indexes and qualified order Bracket racers have mostly only safety rules to follow. Any body, engine and weight. TS and TD might have a min weight. delay boxes and power adders. Random pairing Index racers have weight and index rules that have to be followed. Any engine, body, specific weights, throttle stops delay boxes. Heads up start. Random pair round one. set indexes Pro and Semi Pro also have specific rules that have to be followed. engine size and chassis type, weight, fuel type, pro tree Stock, SS and Comp are class racers TS and TD are bracket racers SG,SC and S/St are index racers Pro Mod, TAD and TAFC are semi pro (technically Sportsman) TF,FC, Pro Stock, Pro stock MC are professional classes __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

02-18-2025, 01:04 PM	#10
Paul Merolla Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Papillion, NE Posts: 610 Likes: 242 Liked 293 Times in 65 Posts	Re: Which Eliminators contain Class Racers? The terms, "Class" and "Category" get mixed up and misused all the time, which leads to a lot of this confusion on what a Class racer is. Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro Stock, Pro Stock Motorcycle, Top Alcohol, Top Dragster, Top Sportsman, Comp Eliminator, Super Stock, Stock, Super Comp, Super Gas, Super Street are all Categories. Not Classes. A/S, G/SA, SS/D, GT/HA, A/SM, D/ED etc., are Classes within their Category. If you race in a Class, you are a Class racer. Period, end of story.