Index Change

[JRyan]

Angelo, you may have hit the nail on the head with that statement.

[Bob Don]

In the grand scheme of things, this will only hurt the marginal cars close to or not that far under. This will actually be good for the fast cars as they now have an extra .15 to play with. (1.25 trigger plus -.3 index = 1.55 under old index vs. 1.40 under old index before changes).

Does anyone have any insight into whether IHRA will follow suit????

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Lane M Weber

One thing NHRA didn`t even consider before they did this was think of the lost revenue to the race tracks from racers like myself no longer participating in the Combo races.

Why can't you?

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by Bob Don

In the grand scheme of things, this will only hurt the marginal cars close to or not that far under. This will actually be good for the fast cars as they now have an extra .15 to play with. (1.25 trigger plus -.3 index = 1.55 under old index vs. 1.40 under old index before changes).

Does anyone have any insight into whether IHRA will follow suit????

I doubt it very seriously .

[buzzinhalfdozen]

I don't see this as a bad thing. I think for the most part we all can still agree that Stock and S/S are performance oreinted classes right? Yes there are some racers who are directly affected by this if they could run at the .3 under. I know that trying to find ET is both costly and time consuming, however how many racers started running Stock or S/S were unaware of this? As with all sports of any type those with the most money can almost always stay ahead, I think that cannot be denied. There seems to be quite a few racers out there with the resources and the willingness to spend it. Does that hurt the sport? It's hard to say for sure but my initial thoughts are yes, If and when this "class" of racer tires of the financial outlay involved verses the return where does that leave the rest of the racers?I've read all of the posts on this and find it hard to really argue with what most have had to say,however as you would expect how the particular racer is affected by this change seems to dictate their response. I've read alot of racers posts of soft indexes, under rated combos ect. which may all be true, but can you imagine the uproar if just a few combos or indexes were hit?All in all basically to me they,ve done nothing more than change the amount under of the qualifying sheet.Joe

[The Hawk]

The reason I can`t Mark is my car is only about .25 under now. I ran better than .30 under twice this past season,but never at a Combo or NHRA event. I know,I know,work on it,blah,blah,blah. Fact of the matter is,if I`m going to spend money on that thing,it won`t be so I can run low 16`s up here,I`m going to put a small block in it and run Pro or Super Pro. I`m tired of spending money on a slow car and it`s time to pick up the pace. The only reason I continued to stick with the slow car deal was because of Stock. So there you have it. I can walk away proud of my accomplishments in the class with no regrets.

[Mike Meier]

Boy am I glad I ripped up my NHRA renewal bills when they came in the mail. Being treated like a deadbeat criminal at my last LODRS gave me a push out the door to the IHRA, but this is like slamming the door on my *** on the way out.

I hope IHRA doesn't copycat the change, but even if they do a change of scenery would be nice.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Lane M Weber

The reason I can`t Mark is my car is only about .25 under now. I ran better than .30 under twice this past season,but never at a Combo or NHRA event. I know,I know,work on it,blah,blah,blah. Fact of the matter is,if I`m going to spend money on that thing,it won`t be so I can run low 16`s up here,I`m going to put a small block in it and run Pro or Super Pro. I`m tired of spending money on a slow car and it`s time to pick up the pace. The only reason I continued to stick with the slow car deal was because of Stock. So there you have it. I can walk away proud of my accomplishments in the class with no regrets.

Lane, I've got nothing against not spending money. That's why I do everything myself.
Let's be realistic here though. You've had that combo for the better part of 20 years now and it has the potential of being number one qualifier. A half second under the old index shouldn't be that hard to achieve ,without spending a big pile of money.
You're just not going to get a lot of sympathy on here with that program.
Same thing goes for the guys trying to run a 5.0 Mustang with the stock short block.
Sometimes you just have to open the wallet a little.
It killed me to have to buy a torque plate for a 2300 Ford for $400 ,but nobody in the Valley had one, so I had no choice, to get it right.
Like I said ,I'm sympathetic about having to spend a bunch of money on these things, but it never was intended to be Affirmative Action Drag Racing.
Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

[The Hawk]

I haven`t posted on this thread looking for sympathy. I was just posting how I felt. Once the dragster deal for me ended a couple of years ago I was ok with just running the Skyhawk,but it`s getting a bit old now. I may change my mind,you just never know?

[Wade_Owens]

Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco

Sounds a little bit too much like a trap if you ask me.....
So a fast car needed to be concerned about going 1.40 under (with the exception of ahfs review triggers at national events)
Indexes lowered .3 - - the instant trigger changed to 1.25
a car can now go up to 1.65 under the old index and not get an instant hit?
if this is correct then to me it looks more like a ploy to weed out the real soft combos

Angelo, I agree 100% also, but as you already know, the guys who knew how to play the game before..............still do.....

Have a great Holiday

Wade