Econo Modified

[Dick Butler]

Randy, Lets face it. One of the reasons NHRA is successful is that it "plays" the racers like a finely tuned violin. Just look at the responses. Not fast enough, wrong ways to limit performance, Wrong parts used, etc etc. NHRA plays on the fact that no group of racers really hang together to support one simple idea. We all want something special that turns "us" on.
Despite the reason for the thread being a CHEAP class to build, a way to get guys a way back into racing without the 30,000$ motor. Many faults can be pointed out from the computer chairs.
The only way respect for this kind of project will occur is keep pointing out the goals.
CHEAPER CLASS, FUN CLASS, HEADS UP CLASS, Not exotic class.

[randy wilson]

Dick, I agree. You think they would look at how the crowd follows the circle track boys, and try to tap into that. I've built some very competitive circle track engines, from $4,000 to $14,000 dollars, and got a lot of my ideas from them, and their rules.

[joespanova]

The conversion cars are cool for the purpose , but I'm a die hard classic muscle car guy ( read that must have chrome bumpers ).
That power train in the Cobalt would be a great combo for a classic Chevy 2 , Camaro or Vette.

[randy wilson]

Joe, I have a 67 nova the same guy who built the cobalt, and the black nova in the video built that I would run. We have the cobalt for sale. I just like older cars.

[randy wilson]

That was a 289 in the cobalt, and a 276 in the nova.

[Signman]

The amount of people who occupy the stands at a given sporting event is dependent on local culture and available entertainment choices.

[joespanova]

Originally Posted by Signman

The amount of people who occupy the stands at a given sporting event is dependent on local culture and available entertainment choices.

Definately

[randy wilson]

Ok, then NHRA and IHRA must have a lot of competition. Because you can't ask 100 people on the street what SS racing is about, and get one answer from someone who knows what they're talking about. The same can't be said for Nascar, or Sprint cars. More people know more about Sammy Swindell then Dan Fletcher.

[joespanova]

Randy , who is this "dusternash" raving about the 12,000 RPM Nova?

In a YouTube video a comment was made by this person:
dusternash

1 year ago

in reply to ted evans

"60 ft times low 1.20's. Car is 1/8 mile so this is a full pass 5.90 117 mph. Launch at 10,000 and shift 10,200. Car weighs 3150 so hp est between 7 and 800"

A 10.5LB car w a 289 w driver on board needs to weigh roughly 3030......however "duster nash " claims the cars weighs 3150......first of all , why carry the additional weight , if in fact he's even accurate........and secondly , its doubtful that little engine is making more than 675 , as opposed to the "between 7 and 8 hundred" he claims. Given he's probably using a shallow valve angle head 15/18deg because thats what it would take?

[randy wilson]

Ok Joe. It's a long story, but I'll do my best to explain. Dusternash is the mouth piece of the competition. He NEVER EVER ran against us. He ran the heads-up trophy class with an 8 second car. I ain't slamming his car, just his motives. They just told him what to post, and he posted it. At Bethany, with the runs he is talking about, the spec motor they ran, ran 6.44 best, at 104 mph. at 11.5 lbs. per cube. He carried a 150 lb. penalty for running a clutchless, and dry sump against our clutch assisted, and wet sump. I doubt the motor had 550 HP. We ran at 11 lbs. per cube, and ran 6.29 at 109.67 best, and we actually dynoed that engine, and had 592 HP. Go figure. Then some of my adversaries decided to talk Eddyville into running "Their" rules of any head, any trans, any oil system, with computers, and all the bells and whistles, and no wt breaks, and dared us to compete under "their" rules. We abliged, with a dart\buick, and proceeded to kick their butts again. The fastest I seen them go at Eddyville, was 6.09 at 109 at 10.5 lbs. per cube with a 15 degree. We went 5.85, 120 mph at 10.5 lbs. per cube. We never were beat by them and they ran the scales, and all legality's. And we only had a shade over 700 HP. If they ever ran a 5 I never seen it, and would doubt the car would weigh right, but who knows. And that, my friend, is the caliber of racers I had to deal with. Some were great, such as Rick Parrot, Steve Bridger, etc, but a few can ruin it for many. In fact after running a couple of times at Eddyville, Steve Thompson, our driver, posted on facebook, "Different track, different tech guys, different rules, Same damn results." Go figure.