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[KRatcliff]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

This is a real easy one to explain so I’ll tackle it! Firebird can run SS/HA, Camaro can’t! So when they race each other, let’s say in the final of a national event, or a must win round in a points race, they won’t race heads up! Therefore, neither will have to lean on their combo, which is the same in both cars, to secure that all important round win! So they just race each other in bracket mode and continue on with the same factor. Allen, is that a good explanation???

I see your point, but I was referring to stock and the fact there are a lot of LT1 combos competing in the classes I referenced. It seems to me that leaving some of them whether I agree with the carve out or not actually expands the possibility of HP adjustments which effects the entire combo no matter class chosen.

[Allen Wilson III]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

This is a real easy one to explain so I’ll tackle it! Firebird can run SS/HA, Camaro can’t! So when they race each other, let’s say in the final of a national event, or a must win round in a points race, they won’t race heads up! Therefore, neither will have to lean on their combo, which is the same in both cars, to secure that all important round win! So they just race each other in bracket mode and continue on with the same factor. Allen, is that a good explanation???

Bingo.

Edited to add: I'm not asking for changes in HP ratings. I'm working on my stuff like you all told me to do.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

And yet, when it's convenient for them, the manufacturers "manipulate" the weights and NHRA goes right along with them! Case-in-point,

2019 Challenger 1320 #3399 8.23 a nice natural A car that can make AA/A/B

2017 Challenger Hellcat #4500 7.50 natural AA car that can make A

Same car, #1100 difference between the two? It couldn't just be that Mopar was picking-and-choosing classes could it?

Larry, maybe you could ask your Mopar buddys about this (and your hood) and I'll find out about that .525 FFFFord cam.

My Drag Pak has been sitting in the same spot since 2010. So, I can't offer anything but opinion on this!

The 2019 Challenger 1320 looks, to me, to be where I would expect it to run.

The Hellcat is one of those combinations that I will be shocked if anyone actually builds one!!

[Larry Hill]

Billy the .525 cam is the 427/425 the .527/.527 is the mystery cam not listed in AMA sheets for the 428/360/335 engine.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by GUMP

The 2019 Challenger 1320 looks, to me, to be where I would expect it to run.

The Hellcat is one of those combinations that I will be shocked if anyone actually builds one!!

My point being, how can two cars that are basically the same (body/chassis, hemi engine/trans/rear) be separated by 1100 pounds in weight other than the Hellcat needing to weigh 4500 lbs. to make it into Stock Eliminator?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Billy the .525 cam is the 427/425 the .527/.527 is the mystery cam not listed in AMA sheets for the 428/360/335 engine.

Ya know, Yac and I don't have these problems with our odd-ball, POS stuff.
Maybe WE'RE not the crazy ones!

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

Then why can you run an LT1 in a 1998 Camaro Z28????

Bryan - As being one of the guys running a Firebird in those days here is the poop.They 'allowed' the using of LT1's because of an engine shortage at GM - I myself could not receive one until way into 1989 .

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Billy the .525 cam is the 427/425 the .527/.527 is the mystery cam not listed in AMA sheets for the 428/360/335 engine.

This has been discussed before.

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...light=Camshaft

[junior barns]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

This has been discussed before.

https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...light=Camshaft

Larry is well aware of this! I believe his point is if NHRA is attempting to right the ship on all their bad policy decisions then they need to look at all and this is just one (big one)of many!!!

[junior barns]

Sorry Larry, I did not mean to speak for you so straighten me out if I misspoke