Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? - Page 2

JRyan · 03-30-2009, 08:36 PM

Gary don't forget about Dave Baumhefners Nova in division 5 as well. Dave's was I believe a 71' 350 270HP? Can't remember for sure. That car hasn't been around since about 2000. I think your correct about Steve's being a 350 as well. Keith did have great success driving them as well. He also ran his B/SA Nova in superstock a couple times as well.

Rick Ryan

FrankChastain · 03-31-2009, 05:27 AM

Can't remember what year the Nova was maybe a 70, but it was called NovaCane and had a needle drawn through the name. Ran in div2. Think the car was out of the Miami area, pretty quick.....Any body remember this car?????

Bobby Zlatkin · 03-31-2009, 08:33 AM

Yes, it was Ken & Pop Andrews white '69 255 HP.

Neal Derochie · 03-31-2009, 01:07 PM

Another div 5 car was AL kuehl's Nova , if i remember correctly he won Topeka with it , Al post on here once in a while, maybe he will give some insight.

GarysZ24 · 03-31-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JRyan

Gary don't forget about Dave Baumhefners Nova in division 5 as well. Dave's was I believe a 71' 350 270HP? Can't remember for sure. That car hasn't been around since about 2000. I think your correct about Steve's being a 350 as well. Keith did have great success driving them as well. He also ran his B/SA Nova in superstock a couple times as well.

Rick Ryan

You got me Rick...I did forget, but sure enjoyed watching Dave's Nova too...I thought those cars made great SS'ers, and if I could afford one, that would be a Chevy body I'd want to have for a second race car! Since there were so many Camaros around, I often rooted for the Nova's to win any time they had to race each other....those were the days.....

Bob Don · 03-31-2009, 09:17 PM

I realize this is a bit dated, but at the 1977 US Nationals, John Dawley Jr. was SS/L Class Championship with a '68 small block Nova.

GarysZ24 · 04-13-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Kuehl

The Nova has more rear over hang , less front overhang , and a higher center of gravity . Is the Aerodynamics of the 68 to 72 Nova really any worse than a 66 to 67 Nova or a 65 Nova ? I would like to hear some thoughts on that . Al

Al, far be it for me to say, but I always thought that since the 68-72 Novas had the extra rear over-hang (plus the shorter front overhang), that they'd be more desireable for traction purposes than the Camaros of that vintage---besides, the swoopy style from the roof to the trunk I thought gave them the aero edge over the more boxy look of the Camaro...they'd sure get my vote, and since I owned/raced Pontiac's version of that car (the Ventura), to my first and only (so far) divisional championship (1981 Div. V Street), I have fond memories of that car/body style...I wish I would've kept that car, and made a stocker out of it--it possibly could've been something between an L/SA, and a N/SA with the Pontiac 350V8, Turbo 350 auto, and 2bbl carb???

As someone else mentioned in an earlier post, I think the addition of the GT classes, and the modern day FI cars became the beginning of the end of them in SS...but why not the Camaros too??? Perhaps there's 350-427 reasons they're still popular....especially the BA & CA ones???

GarysZ24 · 04-13-2009, 09:29 PM

Just saw Steve Koppiens Nova...I rest my case as to why I think they're better SS'ers than Camaros---narrower body, the hatchback look, and the same suspension/chassis type (leaf sprung rear, with the uni-body chassis, that had subframe connectors attached to handle the rigors of racing--especially part-time on two wheels...as Bob Frey would say, WAY UP THERE ON THE "COOL O METER", or "COOLOMETER"!!!

GarysZ24 · 07-18-2009, 04:58 PM

Hi Al,

Sorry it took so long to reply back to your post of mid-April, but with me not having the funds to race this year, I've been a bit lax in checking this site out...however, the one race I was able to enjoy so far this year was around the same time (April 13th), as your last two posts, so that helped...

I'm sure I saw the photo of your car, and it's right up there on the Coolometer as those others we both spoke of here in this thread are/were!!!

I hope to see a photo of that Pontiac Ventura S/S car you spoke of, because that would surely let me know the potential my former Ventura had...

Did you notice that Steve Berlau had his 68 Nova SS/GA car last month in Denver at the LODRS 5-3 race? In spite of the fact that he hasn't been racing much (at least on this level recently), he still qualified 13th (out of 27 total cars), with a 1.050 under 10.65 on the altitude adjusted 11.70 index...that's pretty cool don't you think???

mtkawboy · 07-18-2009, 06:05 PM

Paul Berg in Div 2 used to mess around with a friends 68 327/325 Nova. Never seriously run as a stocker but its the only one Ive ever seen. Its a 327/350 motor only with a Q-jet on it, back in the 7 inch tire days. I think it might have a lot of potential if its still around. It had Grasspower on the side if my memory is correct. Paul runs his brothers I/S 81 Camaro now after a 35 year vacation from racing. Sorry I guess its called a Chevy 11 back then and its rated at 300 hp now

03-30-2009, 08:36 PM	#11
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? Gary don't forget about Dave Baumhefners Nova in division 5 as well. Dave's was I believe a 71' 350 270HP? Can't remember for sure. That car hasn't been around since about 2000. I think your correct about Steve's being a 350 as well. Keith did have great success driving them as well. He also ran his B/SA Nova in superstock a couple times as well. Rick Ryan

03-31-2009, 05:27 AM	#12
FrankChastain Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trussville, Alabama-Originally from Vidalia,GA Posts: 642 Likes: 9 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? Can't remember what year the Nova was maybe a 70, but it was called NovaCane and had a needle drawn through the name. Ran in div2. Think the car was out of the Miami area, pretty quick.....Any body remember this car?????

03-31-2009, 08:33 AM	#13
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? Yes, it was Ken & Pop Andrews white '69 255 HP. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

03-31-2009, 01:07 PM	#14
Neal Derochie Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 52 Likes: 63 Liked 33 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? Another div 5 car was AL kuehl's Nova , if i remember correctly he won Topeka with it , Al post on here once in a while, maybe he will give some insight.

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Bob Don VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,495 Likes: 1,116 Liked 900 Times in 191 Posts	Re: Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? I realize this is a bit dated, but at the 1977 US Nationals, John Dawley Jr. was SS/L Class Championship with a '68 small block Nova.

04-13-2009, 09:29 PM	#18
GarysZ24 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tempe, Az. Posts: 1,270 Likes: 918 Liked 238 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? Just saw Steve Koppiens Nova...I rest my case as to why I think they're better SS'ers than Camaros---narrower body, the hatchback look, and the same suspension/chassis type (leaf sprung rear, with the uni-body chassis, that had subframe connectors attached to handle the rigors of racing--especially part-time on two wheels...as Bob Frey would say, WAY UP THERE ON THE "COOL O METER", or "COOLOMETER"!!! __________________ Gary Hampton '86 Z24,173 V6 CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021)

07-18-2009, 04:58 PM	#19
GarysZ24 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tempe, Az. Posts: 1,270 Likes: 918 Liked 238 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? Hi Al, Sorry it took so long to reply back to your post of mid-April, but with me not having the funds to race this year, I've been a bit lax in checking this site out...however, the one race I was able to enjoy so far this year was around the same time (April 13th), as your last two posts, so that helped... I'm sure I saw the photo of your car, and it's right up there on the Coolometer as those others we both spoke of here in this thread are/were!!! I hope to see a photo of that Pontiac Ventura S/S car you spoke of, because that would surely let me know the potential my former Ventura had... Did you notice that Steve Berlau had his 68 Nova SS/GA car last month in Denver at the LODRS 5-3 race? In spite of the fact that he hasn't been racing much (at least on this level recently), he still qualified 13th (out of 27 total cars), with a 1.050 under 10.65 on the altitude adjusted 11.70 index...that's pretty cool don't you think??? __________________ Gary Hampton '86 Z24,173 V6 CF/S #5824 (#78 in 2021)

07-18-2009, 06:05 PM	#20
mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 282 Likes: 186 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Why dont you see 68-72 nova super stock cars? Paul Berg in Div 2 used to mess around with a friends 68 327/325 Nova. Never seriously run as a stocker but its the only one Ive ever seen. Its a 327/350 motor only with a Q-jet on it, back in the 7 inch tire days. I think it might have a lot of potential if its still around. It had Grasspower on the side if my memory is correct. Paul runs his brothers I/S 81 Camaro now after a 35 year vacation from racing. Sorry I guess its called a Chevy 11 back then and its rated at 300 hp now Last edited by mtkawboy; 07-18-2009 at 06:13 PM.