Cobra Jets.

lstanford · 04-25-2009, 07:47 AM

I see there are three (3) 2008 Cobra Jets at Grand Bend, Kansas. I don't see any earth shaking ET's. I am really searching for the elusive 146 mph! I guess this is probably like seeing the elusive "Big Foot". Everyone has seen him but no one can verify it. The new Dodge at Indy and the Cobra Jets look like a good race.

John Kelley · 04-25-2009, 10:44 AM

There is NO "Grand Bend" in Kansas,,,,,,however there is a GREAT BEND...site of the first US NATIONALS.....

hadtobethere · 04-25-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FECARMAN

I see there are three (3) 2008 Cobra Jets

U are wrong, twice..........4...and 'remember' AA/stock has a .20 faster index......SO, looks like 3 of them could be #1, #2, #3 if all were running in A/SA

bill dedman · 04-25-2009, 02:51 PM

Kelley said, "There is NO "Grand Bend" in Kansas,,,,,,however there is a GREAT BEND...site of the first US NATIONALS....."

"First U.S. Nationals"????

There was never a US Nationals at Great Bend. It was just the NHRA NATIONALS.

The first "U.S. Nationals" was at Indy.

How's that for hijacking a thread?????

lstanford · 04-25-2009, 04:44 PM

I was feeling kind of ignorant for a while but now I'm feeling better about my lack of knowledge. I always thought of Kansas as the home of Conestoga wagon racing and corn eating contests. I want to thank the first two posters for widening my horizon. I am sure they were both witness to the elusive 146 MPH Cobra Jet passes and have surely seen Bigfoot. I see there are four Cobra Jets at Great, Great, Great Bend, not to confused with Grand Bend. I see they have A/SA and AA/SA covered from 9.70 to 10.30. Funny everyone is going to the automatic trans.Wright and Ronzello seem to be the only stick Cobra Jet out there playing. I still think it will be fun to watch how the Challengers and Cobra Jets develop. I guess they both want to kick the sh**t out of them GM cars from the sixties and seventies. I like the headline in the Wall Street Journal today " Pontiac IS Going To The Junkyard". I guess this makes them permanent collector cars. Ford had the Edsel but GM wins the crown with Saturn, Hummer, Oldsmobile and now Pontiac.

John Kelley · 04-25-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FECARMAN

I am sure they were both witness to the elusive 146 MPH Cobra Jet passes and have surely seen Bigfoot

I did see several Cobra Jet runs at Ennis of 140.XX MPH.......nothing over 141 MPH.
BIGFOOT ???........I'll leave that to the folks in the UP.....they are outlawed in TEXAS ! :-)

hadtobethere · 04-25-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FECARMAN

I was feeling kind ignorant .....................

you still are
.

Dick Kirkpatrick · 04-25-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman

Kelley said, "There is NO "Grand Bend" in Kansas,,,,,,however there is a GREAT BEND...site of the first US NATIONALS....."

"First U.S. Nationals"????

There was never a US Nationals at Great Bend. It was just the NHRA NATIONALS.

The first "U.S. Nationals" was at Indy.

How's that for hijacking a thread?????

I was always under the opinion that the first U.S. Nationals were held at Detroit, care to make a wager?

Dick Kirkpatrick · 04-25-2009, 06:40 PM

NHRA Timeline: 50 Years of Power (1951-2001)
Posted By Terry Callahan
Motorsports Editor, The Auto Channel
1951 - NHRA founded by Wally Parks.
1952 -- NHRA sanctions Pomona Drag Strip at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds under the auspices of Pomona Police Chief Ralph Parker.
1954 -- NHRA creates the Safety Safari, a team of drag racing ambassadors and officials who tour the country to introduce the sport to new audiences.
1955 - First NHRA national event held in Great Bend, Kan. Approximately 200 competitors enter for competition in one category: Top Eliminator.
1955 - Calvin Rice wins Top Eliminator at first NHRA national event with run of 10.30 seconds at 143.95 mph.
1956 - NHRA Nationals moved to Kansas City, Mo.
1956 -- NHRA publishes first comprehensive rule book for drag racing.
1957 - NHRA Nationals moved to Oklahoma City.
1959 -- Parachute braking device is first used and soon made mandatory for all cars exceeding 150 mph.
1959 - NHRA Nationals moved to Detroit.

bill dedman · 04-25-2009, 11:05 PM

I wouldn't bet a plugged nickel on it, but I don't think there was any necessity for re-naming the NHRA Nationals until 1961 because there was only that one race, annually. No chance for confusion, nor any reason to separate it from other races. The Dertroit race was the only national event NHRA held that year.

However, in 1961, the inaugural Winternationals was held at Pomona, and now it would be necessary to identify the Indy race as something other than just "The Nationals," since there were now, two "Nationals."

Hence, I believe, the "U.S. Nationals" moniker was born.

Could be wrong, but it makes sense to me.

Uh oh... I forgot; this is NHRA!!!

04-25-2009, 02:51 PM	#4
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cobra Jets. Kelley said, "There is NO "Grand Bend" in Kansas,,,,,,however there is a GREAT BEND...site of the first US NATIONALS....." "First U.S. Nationals"???? There was never a US Nationals at Great Bend. It was just the NHRA NATIONALS. The first "U.S. Nationals" was at Indy. How's that for hijacking a thread????? __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 04-25-2009 at 02:54 PM.

04-25-2009, 04:44 PM	#5
lstanford Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 312 Likes: 1 Liked 134 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Cobra Jets. I was feeling kind of ignorant for a while but now I'm feeling better about my lack of knowledge. I always thought of Kansas as the home of Conestoga wagon racing and corn eating contests. I want to thank the first two posters for widening my horizon. I am sure they were both witness to the elusive 146 MPH Cobra Jet passes and have surely seen Bigfoot. I see there are four Cobra Jets at Great, Great, Great Bend, not to confused with Grand Bend. I see they have A/SA and AA/SA covered from 9.70 to 10.30. Funny everyone is going to the automatic trans.Wright and Ronzello seem to be the only stick Cobra Jet out there playing. I still think it will be fun to watch how the Challengers and Cobra Jets develop. I guess they both want to kick the sh**t out of them GM cars from the sixties and seventies. I like the headline in the Wall Street Journal today " Pontiac IS Going To The Junkyard". I guess this makes them permanent collector cars. Ford had the Edsel but GM wins the crown with Saturn, Hummer, Oldsmobile and now Pontiac.

04-25-2009, 06:40 PM	#9
Dick Kirkpatrick Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Carlise, Ontario, Canada Posts: 73 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cobra Jets. NHRA Timeline: 50 Years of Power (1951-2001) Posted By Terry Callahan Motorsports Editor, The Auto Channel 1951 - NHRA founded by Wally Parks. 1952 -- NHRA sanctions Pomona Drag Strip at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds under the auspices of Pomona Police Chief Ralph Parker. 1954 -- NHRA creates the Safety Safari, a team of drag racing ambassadors and officials who tour the country to introduce the sport to new audiences. 1955 - First NHRA national event held in Great Bend, Kan. Approximately 200 competitors enter for competition in one category: Top Eliminator. 1955 - Calvin Rice wins Top Eliminator at first NHRA national event with run of 10.30 seconds at 143.95 mph. 1956 - NHRA Nationals moved to Kansas City, Mo. 1956 -- NHRA publishes first comprehensive rule book for drag racing. 1957 - NHRA Nationals moved to Oklahoma City. 1959 -- Parachute braking device is first used and soon made mandatory for all cars exceeding 150 mph. 1959 - NHRA Nationals moved to Detroit. __________________ Dick Kirkpatrick 3033 SS

04-25-2009, 11:05 PM	#10
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Cobra Jets. I wouldn't bet a plugged nickel on it, but I don't think there was any necessity for re-naming the NHRA Nationals until 1961 because there was only that one race, annually. No chance for confusion, nor any reason to separate it from other races. The Dertroit race was the only national event NHRA held that year. However, in 1961, the inaugural Winternationals was held at Pomona, and now it would be necessary to identify the Indy race as something other than just "The Nationals," since there were now, two "Nationals." Hence, I believe, the "U.S. Nationals" moniker was born. Could be wrong, but it makes sense to me. Uh oh... I forgot; this is NHRA!!! __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 04-25-2009 at 11:52 PM.

04-25-2009, 07:47 AM	#1
lstanford Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 312 Likes: 1 Liked 134 Times in 32 Posts	Cobra Jets. I see there are three (3) 2008 Cobra Jets at Grand Bend, Kansas. I don't see any earth shaking ET's. I am really searching for the elusive 146 mph! I guess this is probably like seeing the elusive "Big Foot". Everyone has seen him but no one can verify it. The new Dodge at Indy and the Cobra Jets look like a good race.

04-25-2009, 10:44 AM	#2
John Kelley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tightwad,TEXAS Posts: 911 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Cobra Jets. There is NO "Grand Bend" in Kansas,,,,,,however there is a GREAT BEND...site of the first US NATIONALS.....