Sorenson 1.408 under at Boise

[SuperStock 1890]

"The issue with Hal is not the fact that he drained water out of the rad it is that he HAD to drain water out of the rad to kill a run. I have made no secret of the fact I dislike the AHFS in it's present configuration. For one thing it doesn't take into consideration exceptional conditions like today in Boise. The conditions were beyond mineshaft. Those who normally are fast were real fast today. Those who are normally real fast were bullets today. However the key is these were not normal conditions. So you end up with a HP gift on Monday as a result of unrealistic conditions that may not be duplicated again for years. It doesn't add up to me."

Is this a special rule for altitude tracks?

[Keith Lynch]

So ...lets see....You think if the air is so good...won't be duplicated in years....you should be able to set records but not get the AHFS hit in that air ..... interesting. Lot of Chevy racers biten fingernails right now, Is it a 396 or 427...is NHRA gona make Hal count the "run"..... to be continued ...stay tuned

[Larry Hill]

The first time we took the IT/SA truck to Topeka we got five horse power for going too fast with a 25 mph. tail
wind. Bob Lang was at that race and I asked him about the tail wind voiding the run, he said the run would be counted. Then I asked Bob Lang, if I made that same run for the "RECORD" with all the same conditions would it set the "RECORD"; Bob Lang's answer, "Too much of a tail wind to set the RECORD"

On Wednesday we get a registered letter from NHRA.......5HP. X 20LBS. Class = 100LBS

If Sorenson does get HP, he won't have to add 100 lbs.

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

This is what i had from the Vegas race
A/SA 11.58* 10.287 -1.293 6633 Joe Sorensen 69 Camaro 1969 Chevy 427 425 425 Q VEGAS NATS 1

[Bob Shaw]

I am a little confused. If he ran 10.159 on a 11.55 index isn't that only 1.391 under?

[Chuck Norton]

This report is troubling in several respects. Checking back to the sequence of qualifying as reported on Drag Race Central, the Q1 sheet lists Hal as running 10.159 in the #1 position. That couldn't have been the run to which the report refers to as 1.408 under the sea level since, if my admittedly suspect math skills haven't failed at a critical point, it would have required -1.150 to hit the -1.40 trigger. That run was not disqualified or it wouldn't have appeared on the sheet.

The Q3 run came fairly late in the day and Dave forwarded the "rumor" of the water draining incident just before 2:30 so it seems likely that the incident didn't occur on the Q3 pass. Allowing for the cockamamie time stamps on message board postings, that leaves only the Q2 run as the most probable point in question unless the run sequence and timing on DRC is erroneous.

Having already run a recorded time less than .01 slower than -1.40 on Q1, to have come back and run even faster (and tripped the trigger) on Q2 would have been either a deliberate effort to hit their own combination with a hefty penalty or the result of complete brain fade. I'm not all that well-acquainted with the brothers but I've watched them in this sport for over ten years and they don't seem to make too many mistakes when it comes to sabotaging their own program and they've had plenty of chances to do so.

Unquestionably, with the cutbacks and trimming of NHRA oversight of Stock Eliminator there are sometimes lapses in supervision of racers at the end of a run. At last year's Autolite Nationals there were "rumors" that a racer had pulled out of line and skipped the scales in order to avoid taking credit for a run that was more than -1.15 and that happened at a national event! At a Divisional, anything could have been expected to have happened.

Clearly, more information is needed. If Hal was DQ'd on a run, which run was it? If he wasn't DQ'd on any run, then there was no verifiable incident of intentional weight removal to avoid being charged with a violation of AHFS and the "rumor" is exactly that, a "rumor." It shouldn't be all that difficult to review the run sheets and pinpoint the offending run. If he was DQ'd on any run, then the run sheet should present clear evidence. In Division 7, run sheets can be bought at the Racers for Christ booth. Are run sheets available in Boise? When there is evidence, let the stoning begin.

[Keith Lynch]

Bob, I "ASSUME" the run that was to light and did not count towards Q was a 10.148. Anyone know for sure?

[Chuck Norton]

As of this moment there are two Q3 lists on DRC. The one posted at 5:54 PM shows -10.148 while the one posted at 6:18 PM shows -1.159. Things must have been happening pretty fast during those "24" minutes. Jack Bauer must have been on the job? (Apologies to Kiefer Sutherland)

[OLD GUY]

Originally Posted by Chuck Norton

As of this moment there are two Q3 lists on DRC. The one posted at 5:54 PM shows -10.148 while the one posted at 6:18 PM shows -1.159. Things must have been happening pretty fast during those "24" minutes. Jack Bauer must have been on the job? (Apologies to Kiefer Sutherland)

Chuck
I have a copy of the 5:54 pm run sheet from DRC showing the 10.148 run. You know my sources are reliable and you probably know who they are. Looks like NHRA is trying to cover this up. To many people witnessed the water draining incidentincluding the scale operator. I am going to try to post the run sheet from DRC. I am not real good with the computer so we will see if I can do it.

Dave

[Ed Fernandez]

This thread sounds like a political debate.No body wants to answer the question.It's more like
American Idol,a popularity contest.
I wasn't there but it seems like alot of people saw them drop the water from the car,which by the laws of physics means lightening the car.If that isn't a rules infraction then Tom Compton is the second coming of Christ.
Doesn't anyone in this sport with a name ever do anything wrong????????????????????????????????

Ed F.