The Keir Stocker is absolutely 1st rate craftsmanship - but is it legal?

[DPR498]

I'm new here, but thought I'd jump into the fire feet first.Back in Feb.or Mar. I rode along with a friend to get his chassis certified. NHRA tech guy was doing chassis certification and Ken Keir's shop. Their car was still in the progress of being finished. I can say that I saw with my own two eyes that the car had a two piece motor plate and adjustable suspension stops mounted on the control arms. I can also testify to the fact than car is one awesome piece of engineering. I'm just stating what I saw, but don't take any STOCK (pun) in what I say, I'm just a dumb ***** bracket racer.

Dave Printz

[MCH/BOB]

Ive heard more than once in asking IS THAT LEGAL Its easier to ask for forgivness than for permission

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by DPR498

I'm new here, but thought I'd jump into the fire feet first.Back in Feb.or Mar. I rode along with a friend to get his chassis certified. NHRA tech guy was doing chassis certification and Ken Keir's shop. Their car was still in the progress of being finished. I can say that I saw with my own two eyes that the car had a two piece motor plate and adjustable suspension stops mounted on the control arms. I can also testify to the fact than car is one awesome piece of engineering. I'm just stating what I saw, but don't take any STOCK (pun) in what I say, I'm just a dumb ***** bracket racer.

Dave Printz

Well, what do you know? Just when we thought this thread was used up...another eyewitness.
But... I don't see Dave Printz's name on Drag Race Central in the last year...so let's beat him up good. He must be lying...trouble maker... Who's first?

[Tony Janes]

When the Nova goes to a NHRA National Event and passes tech it will be legal, end of story.

[DIAPERMAN]

HI I just had to reply to this post.I am the guy that bought Jerry Ryans S/S a few years back most of you know the wheel stands the car did and how fast it was.But when I bought the car I was excited about running Super stock with my buddy Larry Hodge and all of the old guys that had been around forever.BUT instead what I got was a bunch of BULL SH?T at the first race I took the car to INDY.I was informed by Div 3 Tech that my car needed to be back halfed because it had been illegal since 1999.Keep in mind this is 5 years later and oh ya I am real excited now.So I looked in other cars and guess what at least 15 cars were just like mine ,so I went to NHRA Head guys and they told me it was like driving down a road 80 mph for 10 years and finally getting caught.Gee I am REALLY ecited now .So I did what I had to do to play in THIER GAME spent at least 8000.00 on car and after that they never questioned anything.So all I can say to all of this is LIFE IS NOT ALWAYS FAIR BUT LETS NOT TURN ON EACH OTHER remember 99 percent of racers are just out here having fun

[Chris1529]

why did it have to be back halfed?

[DIAPERMAN]

Four link bars came above floor line, even though they were boxed in.The new way which makes it legal is to make the tubs bigger and include bars .The point is alot of cars are still wrong also this car had won national events and race for years this way and teched at every event all over the country.

[JRyan]

Chris,

Read my post #28 on page 3. The protrusion was so small into the rear seat area to clear the four-link, that I didn't even realize it existed until Dennis said he had to change it. It was that way when we bought the car out of Division 3, and no one had ever mentioned or questioned it. But Dennis bit the bullet and changed it. We bought back a much better car.

The ironic part of all this, is that the car that won best Best Engineered car (a Hemi-Cuda) at the same event Dennis was told to make his legal, had a much more obvious intrusion into the floor pan, and it was detailed on their web site for everyone to see. How do you win BEST ENGINEERED when it isn't CORRECTLY engineered.

So although this thread started with regard to a particular Nova, it's life has continued much to JR'S dismay because it's really about CONSISTENT application of the rules, or lack thereof, from Division to Division and even within Divisions in some cases as Dennis pointed out.

NHRA could make all this work, but monetarily, their heart isn't into doing stuff for the "hayseeds" right now. There are bigger pockets to worry about, their own.

Jerry

[Kevin Love]

Jerry

You can't compare any Super Sock car to the Hemi's -they have their own
rules. I am sure almost everyone has an example vs a hemi car.Not bashing
the hemi guys just stating a fact.

[treessavoy]

Originally Posted by art leong

Like it or not a car is legal till it gets tossed. Then it can be called illegal. If your sure about the car go to the track and put the money up. If not keep the "CRY BABY" stuff up it suits you.

I'm with Art.......If the car is running NHRA events it is Legal until it's found illegal......just that simple!

Jim