AA/SA Sorensen @ Woodburn

[Bob Pagano]

Your wrong on the intake, the 359 is much better than a 163 on the flow bench also depends on how many you flow and the core shift. I have seen 3 in a row one better than the last.

[SStockDart]

I'd pay to watch a match race with Sorensen and Bobby D...........

[Alan Roehrich]

A fast 427 Super Stock car runs low 9 teens at 144 in SS/DA, at the same weight break as AA/SA, but the SS factor is 435, not 425, like it is in Stock. The difference is approximately 5 tenths. And 7 MPH. Carrying 75 pounds more.

[novassdude]

So are all records not witnessed and motors checked by Ed and Fred bogus? Or is there a reason that they have such a problem with this car?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Ed OBrien

Alan
So how much do you think the average SS 427 would run ? I would think the 60ft would be a lot . Have a nice day

Ed, why is it you insist on comparing a FAST Stock Eliminator car to an AVERAGE Super Stock car? Other than it is the only way you can "prove" your bogus point. An average Stock Eliminator 427 car runs 9.90, and an average Super Stock 427 car runs about 9.30. So what?

That's the thing about you Ed, you can't seem to grasp success can come from dedication and hard work. In your world, consistently very low reaction times mean the driver cheats. And consistently quick ET's mean the engine builder cheats. That's your story Ed, everyone who is good, fast, or wins much is cheating.

Well Ed, are you going to call Bobby DeArmond and Gary McGlasson cheaters? Because they aren't far behind the Sorensons, if they are even behind them.

Here's the deal, the Sorensons have been flogging the exact same combination for years. Same as Bobby and Gary. They've got more time and effort invested in those two cars than you have in your life. It's sort of like the guys you think are cheating because they have real low reaction times and win races. They make more passes in a year than you make in a decade.

That's enough time wasted on you, Ed, I have better things to do. Joe and Hal have put us another tenth behind. So I need to get to work. See, that's how you figure out how to go fast, you work. They have the same combination we do, and they're faster. But I'm not going to accuse them of cheating. Instead, I'm going to go to work and try to figure out what they know that I don't, it's evidently a fair amount. But what the Hell, they only have a 15-20 year head start on us, like Bobby and Gary do. They know what doesn't work, they've had time to figure it out, and we haven't yet.

You cry and whine all you want Ed, the rest of us will go get to work and try to catch them the honest way, with hard work and dedication. Meanwhile you can accuse people of cheating, and see if you can get someone to listen. Most of the rest of us know better.

[Jim Wahl]

Alan, will you be at Atlanta and Silver Dollar? Jim

[Paul Precht]

Does anyone know what John Shaul's best time was in AA/SA

[Jim Cimarolli]

From what I can remember I think John Shaul has gone some 9.70's in AA/SA?

[Jim Wahl]

So far this year Shaul has gone a best of 10.010 in AA/SA. Jim

[L Peterson6261]

Sorry boys and girls, I can’t read this without commenting…. give me a stinking break!!! Do any of you really think Hal or Joe are dumb enough to cheat? I’ve been involved in stock for 35 years. I’ve had some pretty fast cars and I feel like I know what it takes to go fast and you don’t have to cheat to do it. I’ve watched Hal & Joe longer than I can remember and I’ll tell you these guys go fast the old fashion way, yes the Warren Johnson way… they work hard at it! If you don’t know them personally you’ll never know how hard they work and how much they test & tune (and their car is nice too). BTW, it’s not just the engine… as good as they are at building engines, “it’s the tune up too”! It’s the entire combination, bumper to bumper and they know that better than anyone, (OK… include Cal Method in that last statement). Hal and Joe have taken the time to figure it “ALL” out not just the engine! I’ll bet these guys spend more time figuring out what one cylinder likes and then tuning all 8 clyinders one at a time (yes you can do that now days) than most of us spend on our entire car. And to top that off they are very friendly, nice guys and also helpful! I’ve been working on getting my car faster and I’ve never once asked either Hal or Joe a question without them being very honest, friendly and helpful. They are class act guys when it comes to racers helping racers and any of you who can’t give them credit for what they do without finding fault should be; as my mother would say, embarrassed and ashamed of yourselves. I’ll bet anyone of you 5K, if they get torn down tomorrow, they’re 100% legal. And when I win your money, I’ll give it to Hal and Joe. Congratulations to them for not getting on here to defend themselves… more evidence that they are a class act! We need more racers (and men) like them!

Larry Peterson
Stk 6261 B/SA