Pick basics of new eliminator - Page 2

Dwight Southerland · 01-13-2010, 09:51 AM

An area that would have to be addressed would be the V6, L6 and 4 cylinder combinations. There is a whole lot more diversity there in design that would create challenges.

Billy Nees · 01-13-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

An area that would have to be addressed would be the V6, L6 and 4 cylinder combinations. There is a whole lot more diversity there in design that would create challenges.

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe 6s with weight break and bigger throttle body and 4s with (dare I say it) OEM turbo but with TBI restriction.

Billy Nees · 01-13-2010, 10:10 AM

Michael Beard, if you are following this would you dust off and post your "International Pro Stock" please. I know that it's not "stock" but it's "21st century stock" and I've always thought that it could develop a good following.

GUMP · 01-13-2010, 10:23 AM

My vote would be to leave it alone. If you want to see class racing come to an end changes like this would be the way to do it.

Billy Nees · 01-13-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

If a new Stock could be created, could there be a concensus on the basic qualities it needs?
Would it be Cheap?to buy?
Would it be many or few combinations?( Like a ford class or a chevy class or combined)
Would it be only Newer cars?(to add younger interest or identification)current cars not qualified to run due to rules limitation.
Would it be very limited modifications of motor to cut costs?( sealed versus spec versus claimer)
Would a class where all peoples current cars could run with a very limited motor rule allowing them to save money on trans and motor builds be okay? New pure motor , previous cars chassis to save money?

Gump, please read the first post! We're not trying to "change" anything! We're passing time on a winters day by doing some "brain farting". Would you care to participate? If not then why are you reading this thread!

Billy Nees · 01-13-2010, 11:31 AM

Dick didn't specifically say "
heads up" but I've been leaning that way in my posts.
I think the only way to keep a "heads up" eliminator under control is to seriously restrict the intake tract and the RPM potential of the motors.

Dick Butler · 01-13-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

An area that would have to be addressed would be the V6, L6 and 4 cylinder combinations. There is a whole lot more diversity there in design that would create challenges.

Would there need to be a 4 or a 6 motor? Would it start as one class or 2 classes SB and BB or would you expect enough cars to justify any other class at all ?
I could see everyone who currently has a car able to move to one or the other class with only a cheaper motor combination added. Regardless of body, or previous motor (might exclude FWD though)( Not a comment against anyones favorite only discussion)
Goal Keep minimum classes, Maximum entrants. And eliminate dial in feature?Or would varied car wts demand group of classes(BUT cheaper Basic)

Dick Butler · 01-13-2010, 01:04 PM

Steve, As questions were raised one could be should there be MANY classes? few classes? a class for everyone or few classes that people chose to race? Just question. Is the Large number of classes today best for diversity or worst for low participation per class?
Go Billy.....

Dave Turner · 01-13-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Polhill

Dick

I have to say if there isn't a place for 4 and 6 cyl motors I'm just not interested at all. We already have enough ape's out there that think there is no place for anything but 8 Cyls in racing. Racing only 8 Cyls is Close minded.

You go girl!!!

Dwight Southerland · 01-13-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Polhill

My Only Fear with a Heads up class is that it will end up like all the other heads up classes. The guy with the most money Wins..

Me too!

What about starting with a format similar to what Div. 1 did with Top Stock and Junior Stock? There probably needs to be a transition plan to allow people to race what they have in the current environment and also participate in a new eliminator formula. I prefer a heads-up race for both the competitors and the spectators sake. Odds are that a spectator base will not be attracted to an index-breakout race.

01-13-2010, 09:51 AM	#11
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,999 Likes: 64 Liked 772 Times in 192 Posts	Re: Pick basics of new eliminator An area that would have to be addressed would be the V6, L6 and 4 cylinder combinations. There is a whole lot more diversity there in design that would create challenges.

01-13-2010, 10:10 AM	#13
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,485 Likes: 3,587 Liked 7,682 Times in 1,730 Posts	Re: Pick basics of new eliminator Michael Beard, if you are following this would you dust off and post your "International Pro Stock" please. I know that it's not "stock" but it's "21st century stock" and I've always thought that it could develop a good following. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

01-13-2010, 10:23 AM	#14
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,817 Likes: 2,155 Liked 2,336 Times in 549 Posts	Re: Pick basics of new eliminator My vote would be to leave it alone. If you want to see class racing come to an end changes like this would be the way to do it.

01-13-2010, 11:31 AM	#16
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,485 Likes: 3,587 Liked 7,682 Times in 1,730 Posts	Re: Pick basics of new eliminator Dick didn't specifically say " heads up" but I've been leaning that way in my posts. I think the only way to keep a "heads up" eliminator under control is to seriously restrict the intake tract and the RPM potential of the motors. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

01-13-2010, 01:04 PM	#18
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Pick basics of new eliminator Steve, As questions were raised one could be should there be MANY classes? few classes? a class for everyone or few classes that people chose to race? Just question. Is the Large number of classes today best for diversity or worst for low participation per class? Go Billy..... Last edited by Dick Butler; 01-13-2010 at 01:13 PM.