2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes

[Alan Roehrich]

Jim,
You started in 1902?

[Woodro Josey]

Hey Alan, do you know the approved blocks yet?

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

And the slow cars conveniently forget the advantages they have, not seeing the other car leave first, less time on the chip, the converter, and the brakes, as well as less worry about the rapidly growing problem of questionable track prep.

If you built a slower car knowing about the first red light rule, well, you knew the rules, they haven't changed in around 45 years. I guess you'd build a house between an airport and a landfill, then complain about jet noise and the garbage smell.

I don't see how it could be stated better than this. Only a slow car that always leaves first could fail to see the other side. I'm in the middle, I do both. I prefer to not having to have the other car distract me, I prefer to leave first. Faster cars don't worry about being green when they have already won. I'll take a shot I wouldn't normally take if I already won, just to see if I can get away with it. I know I'm not the only one.

[Tom keedle]

Originally Posted by Dean3870

Im a slow car, always will be a slow car! i have a fix for it. just stop giving out R.T.s that will fix it all. you have a starting line, and a finish line, and you both have the same one!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe ill just put mine back on the street! go to car shows way less bitching
mike dean
3870

less bitching at car shows!?!?!?
hardly....

[Ed Fernandez]

If you built a slower car knowing about the first red light rule, well, you knew the rules, they haven't changed in around 45 years. I guess you'd build a house between an airport and a landfill, then complain about jet noise and the garbage smell.

Alan,correct me if I'm wrong.Not one of the slower cars guys have complained about the advantages the faster cars have.It seems some of the prissy faster guys have bitched about the distraction of us slower guys leaving.
Try closing it up on a guy going 25-now almost 55 mph faster than you.We don't.We just go out there and do our best.
I really feel for the higher class guys contending with the new cars heads up.As far as the red light rule,suck it up boys and live with it.

If you built a slower car knowing about the first red light rule, well, you knew the rules, they haven't changed in around 45 years. I guess you'd build a house between an airport and a landfill, then complain about jet noise and the garbage smell.

I've lived by an airport and it never did bother me.Maybe some of the bitchers/moaners lived near a dump.That would explain a lot.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

I guess the drivers complaining must red light alot.
Why dont you crying no racing donkeys get off the computer.
And you same donkeys want to get rid of HEADS UP RACING..
Do us all a favor and take up golf or TV couch potato racing..
Or be .200 in the tree AND YOU WONT GO RED!!

I was in Stock against a top ten contender for the championship. National one weekend, divisional the next. I had the faster car. Both races he red lit. So did I.
Both races I red lit worse. Both races he went home and I advanced. He wasn't happy.
You build a slower car, you build a faster car. Either way, you know the pitfalls of both going in.
This jiberish is almost always by a no-name. Either a no-name in bracket racing or a no-name in class racing.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Woodro Josey

Hey Alan, do you know the approved blocks yet?

Sorry Woodro, haven't heard a thing, yet. I'll let you know if/when I do.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

If you built a slower car knowing about the first red light rule, well, you knew the rules, they haven't changed in around 45 years. I guess you'd build a house between an airport and a landfill, then complain about jet noise and the garbage smell.

Alan,correct me if I'm wrong.Not one of the slower cars guys have complained about the advantages the faster cars have.It seems some of the prissy faster guys have bitched about the distraction of us slower guys leaving.
Try closing it up on a guy going 25-now almost 55 mph faster than you.We don't.We just go out there and do our best.
I really feel for the higher class guys contending with the new cars heads up.As far as the red light rule,suck it up boys and live with it.

If you built a slower car knowing about the first red light rule, well, you knew the rules, they haven't changed in around 45 years. I guess you'd build a house between an airport and a landfill, then complain about jet noise and the garbage smell.

I've lived by an airport and it never did bother me.Maybe some of the bitchers/moaners lived near a dump.That would explain a lot.

Ed,
When the idea of the AA class was proposed, a few of the slower guys complained bitterly that the fast cars were already fast enough, and had enough advantages.That's just one example.

I think this whole thing is way overblown. I wouldn't throw a fit if they did change it. I just don't see the case for doing so as being so overwhelming. There are a few advantages to slow cars, and a few to fast cars, it seems to be about level. I think a lot of people build fast cars because they like to go fast. I know I have zero interest in racing anything slower than an 11 second car. But that's just my personal preference. I certainly wouldn't be all bent about it changing like some of these guys seem to be about it not being changed. I wasn't playing the game then, but I'd have never had a complaint with people deep staging.

[Ed Carpenter]

I know others are thinking this so ill say it. How did new rules for 2011 turn into worst red light loses, fast cars vs slow cars, bracket vs class racing, clean trees, etc

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Ed,
When the idea of the AA class was proposed, a few of the slower guys complained bitterly that the fast cars were already fast enough, and had enough advantages.That's just one example.

I think this whole thing is way overblown. I wouldn't throw a fit if they did change it. I just don't see the case for doing so as being so overwhelming. There are a few advantages to slow cars, and a few to fast cars, it seems to be about level. I think a lot of people build fast cars because they like to go fast. I know I have zero interest in racing anything slower than an 11 second car. But that's just my personal preference. I certainly wouldn't be all bent about it changing like some of these guys seem to be about it not being changed. I wasn't playing the game then, but I'd have never had a complaint with people deep staging.

Alan,deep staging is another thing.That being said,I was against killing the deep staging,as was Toby.I learned fast that it really wasn't necessary.I didn't need it to screw up on the lights:>):>).It did lessen the game playing though,which was a good thing.
Come on Alan,a lot of guys build fast cars to feed their egos.